LGBTQ2S+ & Conservatives

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Pondering

It looks like drag queens reading to kids has been a thing for a while? It seems weird to me personally and I wouldn't bring my kids to a reading, but if they wanted to go I wouldn't make a fuss around it. I can imagine it's being ramped up as a fuck you in response to people having an issue with it.

I think protest groups have to get more creative. They should start a trend of clowns doing storytelling at the library. It would be  genuinely hilarious. The TQ2+ activists would have a fit not wanting children to be confused between clowns and drag queens.

They tried to make drag kings a thing but exagerating male stereotypes isn't as amusing as exagerating female stereotypes. We are so funny, so easily ridiculed. Our identity is made clear by gigantic boobs, asses and big red lips. Yuk yuk lady parts are hilarious appendages men can wear to become women. 

6079_Smith_W

Pondering wrote:

They tried to make drag kings a thing but exagerating male stereotypes isn't as amusing as exagerating female stereotypes. We are so funny, so easily ridiculed. Our identity is made clear by gigantic boobs, asses and big red lips. Yuk yuk lady parts are hilarious appendages men can wear to become women. 

I don't know how many of these events you have been to, but it was a fairly even split at Pride events here in Saskatoon; drag kings aren't just "a thing" that was tried and failed.
And to be honest, reducing it to gigantic boobs and asses says more about those who only see that, and miss what it is all about. Want to spin it as shame and ridicule? Well whose shame? Not the people who are doing it.
Kind of like those who claim LGBT events are oversexualized (whatever that means), while ignoring how much in straight culture is far more sexualized.

And I have seen those protesters up close. Basically the People's Party of Canada gang. They weren't the ones doing the clowning, at that protest, believe me.

And they were far, far outnumbered.

oldgoat

Pondering, your posts # 47 and 50 are full of destructive misinformation and harmful tropes.   The old standby “they’re coming for our kids” and are furthering some deep nefarious agenda has been a tool for hate and a justification for violence toward the LGBT2Q+ community since forever and has been absolutely against babble policy from the beginning.

There is good in formation out there pertaining to transgender issues. I posted a few links a few months ago.  You pointedly refused to look at it, which is your right.  However, the sort of anti trans stuff your posting cannot be permitted.  I always have some regret when I have to ban a babbler of long standing, but your posts are pretty egregious. I’m closing your account.

jerrym

Paladin1 wrote:

Not to make an appeal to numbers but I have a handful of LGBTQ friends and peers. They're all "Anti Pride". The feedback from the LGBTQ community in some of the Positive Space classes I instruct say the same.

That sounds like the old "I have a Black friend and he says ... " cliche.

Paladin1

jerrym wrote:

That sounds like the old "I have a Black friend and he says ... " cliche.

That's exactly what it is Jerrym. An appeal to numbers/appeal to authority. Although in my case I'm not trying to use it to defend my views but to share lived experiences of myself and others.

In point of fact my heavily Conservative employer employs twice as many transgender people percentage-wise than any other employer in Canada. We're right up there with homosexuals too, I wouldn't be surprised if we also employ twice the average as other organizations.

The overwhelming opinion I've seen and heard from LGBTQ peers and coworkers is that Pride(tm) isn't indicative of their lifestyles or how they see themselves. Your mileage may vary.

6079_Smith_W

I'm not sure how many floats there were at Saskatoon Pride - well over 100.

If someone says they don't like it, well what are they talking about? The bar float full of dancing people, or the one with grandmothers, or the one from the bank? Or the church? Or the booth promoting abortion support?  Or the vegans? They seem to challenge a lot of people too.

There were people with bare breasts there. Was it sexual? I suppose some people might have interpreted it that way, but one booth I was working was handing out buttons promoting breast health, so maybe that isn't why they came up to us. As for kids who might have seen that, well their parents were there, right?

The biggest complaint I have heard from people is that these events are too corporate. That's fine, but as someone who has done event organizing I can tell you you don't get a big stage, toilets and garbage services without sponsorship. 

When I was selling ads for an event some years ago someone I was soliciting told me he found the word "Queer" in the title of the event offensive (as indeed it has been, historically). Fair opinion; he still bought the ad to support it.

Like it or not, people have every right to join a parade and show support in any legal way they want. The only exception I can think of is the debate around whether to allow the police to take part, and whether they should be allowed to be uniformed or not.

That's the problem with (for whatever motive) reducing things to "the gays" or "the blacks" or "the Muslims" or "the Christians". Neither the communities these straw polls supposedly represent nor what the complaints are about are monolithic.

I have a complaint too. I don't like the fact some of our MLAs are there, given their government's lack of support for LGBT people. I don't have the right to tell them to not  be there, and I know there are some in the community who feel it is important they are there.

The biggest reason this is kind of silly is the assumption something should be done to tailor the event to these various personal wishes. Even if someone was inclined to enforce strait-laced Pride, I'd like to see them try. It might be worth remembering that this whole thing started out as a riot in reaction to police raids. So if anyone has a right to be there, it is those people in drag, who there among the first ones under attack, and the first ones to fight back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots

6079_Smith_W

Thing is, if someone thinks Pride events have gone the wrong way, they do have the option of doing something other than complaining. If it is honest, and not a concern troll, that is.

Those who are so opposed to that they refuse to take part, can always make their own parade. Some have. I expect not everyone agreed with this either.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/black-lives-matter-vanco...

jerrym

Blaine Higgs is recruiting thousands of right-wing Christians in the hopes of having enough support to win a New Brunswikc leadership vote triggered by weight PC MLAs, including six cabinet ministers, not supporting him on reducing protections for public school students in Policy 713. 

A Christian conservative group rallying support for New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs now has enough signatures to be a decisive factor in any leadership review vote.

It and another organization rallying support for the embattled Progressive Conservative leader have flexed their muscles in the last month, gathering enough names to swing the vote in his favour.

"A lot of times it's hundreds or even dozens of people that can make a difference in some of these elections," said Faytene Grasseschi, who runs the group 4 My Canada from Quispamsis, outside Saint John.

As of Wednesday she said she had collected almost 9,000 names from across Canada, including 2,000 from New Brunswick who could sign up as provincial PC members. "If it goes to a leadership review, I think it's buying that membership and making your voice heard," said Grasseschi. "This is just basic democracy, right?"

Another group, Right Now, has more than 1,200 signatures. Co-founder Alissa Golob estimates more than 90 per cent of them are from New Brunswickers who are eligible to become provincial party members. "We'll be ready if it does come to a leadership review or if it comes down to an election," said Golob, who describes her organization as non-religious.

Twenty-six PC riding association presidents have signed letters calling for a review, hoping to trigger a vote by members on whether to dump Higgs. New Brunswick's premier has lost or fired several cabinet ministers in recent months over his leadership style, and stance on issues like a gender policy in the province's schools. 

The next hurdle is a two-thirds vote by the party's governing body to schedule a convention. But if that happens, Higgs has a good chance of surviving thanks to Grasseschi and Golob. Just 2,732 PC members cast ballots in the third and final round of the party's 2016 leadership vote that Higgs won. His margin was 394 votes — far fewer than the number of names collected by 4 My Canada and Right Now. "The nation and our communities are shaped by those who show up in the process," Grasseschi said.

The two groups started mobilizing last month after Higgs faced a cabinet and caucus revolt in the legislature over changes to Policy 713. The original policy required school staff to respect the name and pronoun choices of students under 16 in the classroom, without notifying parents if that's what the child wanted.

Grasseschi is something of a celebrity in Christian conservative circles.  She first came to prominence as an organizer of mass prayer rallies called TheCry and founded 4 My Canada in 2006. In 2009 well-known Canadian televangelist David Mainse compared her to Old Testament figures Deborah and Esther, saying she had a "prophetic edge."

Journalist Marci McDonald, author of a 2010 book on the Christian conservative movement, called her "very compelling and charismatic" and "one of the leading figures in this country's emerging Christian right." McDonald said in an interview she believes Grasseschi and others are using the issue of LGBTQ rights in schools as "a new hub to get Christians, evangelical Christians, the religious right, involved in politics again, as a new rallying cry. "They haven't had a rallying issue since same-sex marriage that brought people out to the polls."

Right Now has existed since 2016 and focuses mainly on abortion.  Its online petition to support Higgs cites both Policy 713 and his refusal to fund abortions in Fredericton's Clinic 554. 

Golob said she believes most of the New Brunswickers who have signed are not PC members because many of them opposed some of his other policies, such as COVID-19 restrictions early in the pandemic.  But she said they form a base that can be deployed in any leadership review or election where Higgs's future is on the line.  "You can grow that exponentially as long as you have that solid foundation," she said. In a statement, Higgs said he has received support "from a wide cross section of individuals" who come from "different backgrounds, different cultures, and different religions." He said "despite their differences," they share his belief and support what he calls his balanced approach.

The strategy of the two groups is already bearing fruit. Roxana Kreklo, a Sussex parent of school-age children who works for Harvest Prison Ministries, said she joined the PC party two weeks ago expressly to support Higgs.

"I think it's important for all of us to get involved civically," she said. Kreklo moved to Canada as a child from Romania, shortly after the collapse of Communist rule there — one reason she said she's getting involved politically now. "I understand the value of … coming to a place that is a free and democratic society," she said. "So I want to do what I can to preserve that for my kids and for other kids as well."

McDonald said Grasseschi is part of a movement called the New Aposotolic Reformation that aims to put believers in government leadership positions so Canada can be "restored to be a Christian nation in time for the second coming of Christ," she said. Grasseschi would not confirm that. "You know, that would be a good question," she told CBC News. "I don't know. I hear these types of terms thrown around. People assume that I know. I actually have the same question myself." ...

Grasseschi herself has already waded directly into electoral politics. Not long after moving to New Brunswick, she ran unsuccessfully to be the Conservative Party of Canada candidate for Saint John-Rothesay in the last federal election. She lost to former Saint John mayor Mel Norton, who went on to lose to Liberal incumbent Wayne Long.  She is not ruling out running federally again. She also said she has thought "vaguely, vaguely" about running provincially in Quispamsis whenever Higgs retires as MLA. "Right now I'm just trying to get my laundry done," she said. "Right now I'm just trying to get to tomorrow. But we all take things a day at a time in this world, right?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/christian-conservatives-sup...

jerrym

However, Christians are not the only people Conservatives are targeting. On CBC's Power and Politics, several panelists noted that Pierre Poilievre and Danielle Smith took smiling photos with people wearing anti-trans t-shirts during the Calgary Stampede and failed to say anything against such anti-trans supporters when this was pointed out to them. "Calgary Forest Lawn MP Jasraj Singh Hallan, second left, is shown standing with Mahmoud Mourra" (https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/poilievre-s-office-calgary-mp-s...?), second right, and two other men wearing anti-gay T-shirts, but the Conservatives failed to respond to complaints about that as well. On Power and Politics, both Indo-Canadian Zain Velji and Liberal strategist Laura D'Angelo said this was no accident as the Conservatives are not only going after conservative Christian voters, but right-wing visible minorities who have anti-gay biases based on the religious beliefs whether Sikh, Hindu, Moslem or other religions with such views. Both Velji and D'Angelo said the Liberal party and to a lesser extent the NDP have won many ridings based on the visible minority vote, but both parties are not yet fully recognizing the play the Conservatives are making for conservative visible minorities by appealing to concerns about family and education on anti-gay, and especially anti-trans issues. 

20230715160712-c2e13feaf82e5e4267e08375913e8b35222f1ef69c79190aa99b30ad1be2646dCalgary Forest Lawn MP Jasraj Singh Hallan, second left, is shown standing with Mahmoud Mourra, second right, and two other men. The image was taken from a Facebook page posted by Mourra.

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https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/poilievre-s-office-calgary-mp-s...?)

jerrym

The fight is on between Higgs and that part of his cabinet (six members) and two other MLAs, as well as 26 presidents and and four retired presidents of the 49 Conservative riding associatons over Higgs reduction of Policy 713 protections for LGBTQ2S public school students and his top down governing style. His "condescension and neglect toward the francophone and Indigenous communities" has also played a role in this rebellion. This once again illustrates the intersectionlity (an analytical framework for understanding how a person's various social and political identities combine to create different modes of discrimination and privilege) of discrimnatory issues. The first step in the party process for removing Higgs from office has been taken -  putting the issue of Higgs leadership on the agenda for the next provincial council meeting. 

New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative party members who want Premier Blaine Higgs to step down as leader say they've taken the first step to oust him. Marc Savoie, president of the Progressive Conservative riding association in Moncton East, said the dissenting party members, which include 26 riding presidents, have the necessary paperwork to start the process to removeHiggs. The PC constitution says 50 members of the party — including at least 20 riding presidents — can trigger a leadership review. "The party doesn't have to issue an answer at the moment," Savoie said in an interview Friday. "All it's obligated to do is put this on the agenda for next provincial council meeting, which will happen at some point in September." 

A two-thirds majority of the council is needed to officially launch the review vote by PC party members. If the vote is defeated, Savoie said, Higgs is free to continue as leader of the New Brunswick Tories and premier of the province. If Higgs loses, however, he's welcome to contest again as party leader, Savoie added.

Dissenting party members have numerous problems with Higgs' leadership, Savoie said. These include Higgs’ changes to the policy on sexual orientation and gender identity in schools; his attempted cuts to the French immersion program for anglophone students; his decision to close six rural hospital emergency rooms; and his elimination of elected representatives from regional health authorities and the anglophone education system.

Higgs' condescension and neglect toward the francophone and Indigenous communities have led to drastically reduced participation in the party's northern riding associations, Savoie added. He said the premier has been claiming that dissenting presidents want to bring about a leadership review because of changes to the LGBTQ policy. The changes include making it no longer mandatory for teachers to use the preferred pronouns and names of transgender and nonbinary students under 16.

Savoie, however, says changes to Policy 713 are "the tip of the iceberg. That's just the straw that broke the camel's back," he said. "It's the prime example of how he is ruling the party in relation to the people. He listens to the people who say what he wants them to say. And that's how he bases his decisions."

Earlier this month, two ministers resigned from Higgs' cabinet citing his leadership style, leading to a shuffle during which the premier named five new people to portfolios. After the cabinet shuffle Tuesday, Higgs told reporters he needed to rebuild relationships with dissenting riding presidents. "I think we have some building to do," he said. "There's no question about that, and I need to play a key role in that — reaching out to the membership, to the executives throughout the province, and be able to sit down and have some very good discussions." 

Higgs' office did not immediately return a request for comment. Savoie said he is not sure about the premier's intentions on healing the divisions in the party.

"He's been saying that for years now. He's been saying that he wants to work together with people. He's done the exact opposite. He's alienated his caucus members, party members. He goes ahead and makes decisions without listening to his close allies, to his ministers, to his (members of legislative assembly)," he said. "He did nothing to nobody but himself. So for those reasons, we strongly believe that when he says those words, it is just to try to stop the discussion that we're having at the moment."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-new-brunswick-progressive...

Paladin1

What happened to all the Pride and LGBTQ stories in the media? We went from almost daily doom stories in June to nothing this month.

jerrym

Paladin1 wrote:

What happened to all the Pride and LGBTQ stories in the media? We went from almost daily doom stories in June to nothing this month.

June is Pride month. That is why there has been a drop off in coverage in July. However CBC News Network covered a Pride parade in PEI today. A similar drop-off occurs after Black History month in February.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-trudeau-pride-ch...

6079_Smith_W

I suppose it might be an improvement if the haters saved it all up for June, and declared a July to May moratorium. Sorry to say LGBT people face discrimination and attacks every month of the year.

Maybe what you are noticing is the right wing media larding it on during Pride month. 

The PPC-driven protests about change rooms here in Saskatoon were in February and March. Fortunately those haters could not match the public support for the city's inclusive policy.

https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/misinformation-about-alleged-change-room-in...

Paladin1

jerrym wrote:

June is Pride month. That is why there has been a drop off in coverage in July. However CBC News Network covered a Pride parade in PEI today. A similar drop-off occurs after Black History month in February.

Right. But according to the news in June, it seemed like we were heading towards a scene from The Purge. Steps away from repealing gay rights, and LGBTQ attacks were allegedly through the roof.

Then July hits and practically crickets.

Are gay rights still severely at risk and LGBTQ being attacked all over the place and the media just isn't reporting it?

6079_Smith_W

Yeah. Just a June fad, obviously (though the month wasn't picked for the nice weather. It is the month of the Stonewall police attack on LGBT people).

Or maybe you are just missing the coverage that are there all the time. It doesn't take much of a search to find that out.

The Orlando nightclub shooting happened in June. But there was a similar anti-LGBT mass killing in Colorado last november:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_nightclub_shooting

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgbt-hate-crimes-press-rele...

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-record-jump-in-lgbtq-re...

https://acleddata.com/2022/11/23/update-fact-sheet-anti-lgbt-mobilizatio...

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/nearly-1-5-hate-crimes-motivated...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/recorded-homophobic-hate-c...

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/200909/dq200909a-eng.htm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-62413792

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Or maybe you are just missing the coverage that are there all the time. It doesn't take much of a search to find that out.

It went from MSM stories every 12 hours about the pending LGBTQ armageddon to near radio silence.

Of course, things are still happening; maybe the media just took advantage of June to get people riled up.

6079_Smith_W

That is simply not true and you know it.

I am not surprised at you spinning it as media exploitation, and ignoring the fact it is a very real crisis all the time. I don't anyone here is going to take your claim seriously though.

Maybe try the National Post comment section. I am sure you will find a sympathetic ear.

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:

I am not surprised at you spinning it as media exploitation, and ignoring the fact it is a very real crisis all the time. I don't anyone here is going to take your claim seriously though.


The media exploited pride month, as did businesses.
It's a very real crisis that happens all the time, not just June.
No one here will take me seriously about anything.
I would find a lot of sympathetic ears in the comment section.

jerrym

Paladin1 wrote:
jerrym wrote:

June is Pride month. That is why there has been a drop off in coverage in July. However CBC News Network covered a Pride parade in PEI today. A similar drop-off occurs after Black History month in February.

according to the news in June, it seemed like we were heading towards a scene from The Purge. Steps away from repealing gay rights, and LGBTQ attacks were allegedly through the roof.

Then July hits and practically crickets.

Are gay rights still severely at risk and LGBTQ being attacked all over the place and the media just isn't reporting it?


Just because you don't hear a tree fall in the woods, doesn't mean it did not fall. Just because there has been less coverage of LGBTQ2S+ issues doesn't mean they are not facing discrimination and attacks.
In fact, New Brunswick's child and youth advocate Kelly Lamrock just released report concludes that changes to Policy 713 made by the Blaine Higgs government " violate the Charter rights of children and the Human Rights Act ". Lamrack notes " "The parent has a right to teach their values to a child," Lamrock told reporters after he released his report. "The parent does not have the right to a state apparatus to force the child to live by their values."
Lamrack said "District education councils can pass their own policies based on Lamrock's recommendations, and Lamrock said those policies would supersede the provincial one" because Higg's policies violate the Charter of Rights. Higgs disagrees.

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Changes to New Brunswick's policy on sexual orientation and gender identity in schools violate the Charter rights of children, the province's child and youth advocate said Tuesday.

Kelly Lamrock released his findings in a report of nearly 100 pages, concluding that the Education Department did not seriously consider the legal consequences of its changes to Policy 713.

New Brunswick's government made several revisions in June, one of which requires children under 16 to have parental consent before they can officially change their preferred first names or pronouns at school.

Lamrock said forcing any non-binary and transgender students to use a name they don't identify with "is a violation of their protected rights under the Human Rights Act and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms."
Parents have an important role to play in their child's development, but the government's changes were vague and created confusion, he said. "The parent has a right to teach their values to a child," Lamrock told reporters after he released his report. "The parent does not have the right to a state apparatus to force the child to live by their values."

Premier Blaine Higgs has defended the changes to the LGBTQ school policy, arguing that parents have the right to know whether their children are questioning their gender identity. But Higgs's government has faced strong backlash, including within his own cabinet and from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Dissenting members of Higgs's Progressive Conservatives voted with the opposition in mid-June to pass a motion asking Lamrock's office to review the changes to Policy 713.

The result was Tuesday's report, in which Lamrock says the policy changes effectively veto a child's decision on what pronouns or names they can use in school until they are 16. The revisions, he says, have left the Department of Education, teachers and administrators legally vulnerable.

Higgs did not return a response for a comment on Tuesday. Education Minister Bill Hogan, meanwhile, said he had no immediate comment. "I will be taking the necessary time to review Mr. Lamrock's report and will provide further comments only after my review is complete," he said in an emailed statement.

In his report, Lamrock says that it's not bigoted for a parent to want to know about major decisions taken by their children, including name or pronoun changes. "Equally so, it is not extreme to want children to have privacy and autonomy when they are old and mature enough to exercise it."

Lamrock says that over the past two months he reviewed more than 400 submissions from parents, students, teachers and government officials. He proposes 24 recommendations to revise the policy so that it is in line with the Charter and other laws, including that the government "restore language explicitly restricting school personnel from outing students without their permission."

Higgs's government revised the policy so that only students 16 and older could have their preferred names or pronouns changed on official school records, such as class lists. Lamrock says that change should remain.

However, Lamrock says that younger students should be able to choose how they are informally addressed by teachers and school staff. School principals, he adds, should be responsible for developing plans in consultation with psychologists and teachers for primary school students who want to informally change their names and pronouns.

"Any concept of parental rights which starts and stops with asserting that parents should have unlimited control over the child is an analysis too limited to stand," the report says. "In fact, much of what we call 'parental rights' stem from the child's rights. The parent does not have an absolute right to control a child."

He also recommends that Policy 713 be restored with language protecting students' right to participate in activities consistent with their gender identity.

Liberal Leader Susan Holt said Tuesday her party would like to see the government commit to immediately adopting the recommendations. "We believe that teachers and parents and students deserve clarity prior to starting school in September, and so we are looking for an urgent response from the government," she said.

David Coon, Green leader, said it was helpful to have a legal framework for the recommendations made by Lamrock. "It provides tremendously clear guidance," he said.

Gail Costello, with New Brunswick LGBTQ advocacy group Pride in Education, also applauded the report. "I think it's time for the premier to take a step back, trust his own employees, trust Kelly Lamrock, trust the professionals, and this is a chance to back away from this and do what's best for kids," she said.


https://www.iheartradio.ca/ctv-news-content/n-b-child-advocate-says-lgbt...

jerrym

Furthermore, a graduating Grade 12 student worries about what will happen to LGBTQ2S+ students still in school if Higgs' PC government changes are implemented this fall. 

Alex Harris, a Riverview student going into Grade 12, said hearing the advocate's words was a relief because they emphasized students' rights to privacy and equality — something he did not hear from the government.

"Kids deserve privacy and kids deserve rights the same as everybody else," Harris said. "Even if what a kid wants to do isn't quite what their parents want them to do."

However Harris said he's worried about what the school year will look like if the province does not undo its changes.

"My friends are going to get hurt. My friends' home lives are gonna get harder and my life is gonna get harder too. Because now the government has said that it is OK to disrespect people … like me," he said.

District education councils can pass their own policies based on Lamrock's recommendations, and Lamrock said those policies would supersede the provincial one. Higgs said Tuesday that's not correct. "That would be circumventing the laws," Higgs said.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/nb-government-needs-to-act-urgentl...

6079_Smith_W

Fuckers.

Not only will kids get outed to their parents, parents will be given the power to pull their kids out of sex ed, and no trained third  parties (Out Saskatoon, Planned Parenthood) will be allowed in the classroom.

Waiting for the clip to go online of Dustin Duncan trying to explain this in the face of Saskatchewan's soaring teen pregnancy rates (and a syphilis crisis).

https://www.stf.sk.ca/about-stf/news/dangerous-saskatchewan-government-p...

jerrym

Fortunately, the Saskatchewan Advocate for Children and many organizations are looking into the situation, just like he province's child and youth advocate in New Brunswick did, concluding that forcing any non-binary and transgender students to use a name they don't identify with "is a violation of their protected rights under the Human Rights Act and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

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The Saskatchewan Advocate for Children and Youth says her office will review a new policy around pronoun use in the province's schools.

"I am deeply troubled by the impact this policy will have on the rights of children in Saskatchewan," said Lisa Broda in a statement issued Tuesday afternoon.

Education Minister Dustin Duncan announced earlier in the day that going forward, schools must now seek the permission of parents or guardians before allowing students under the age of 16 to change what the province refers to as their "preferred" name and pronouns.

For students 16 and over, parent/guardian consent is not required.

Broda said her office found out about the policy, titled Use of Preferred First Name and Pronouns by Students, through the media and had not been advised of the changes.

"Any new policy, legislation, law, or practice that may impact children and their rights compels me, under my legislative authority, to review and advise on such matters," she said.

Duncan said earlier Tuesday that his department would work with the Saskatchewan Advocate for Children and Youth if the office planned to look at the new policy. 
At a news conference Tuesday, Duncan said there will be provisions in place for children wanting to change their name and pronouns who believe they are at risk of harm if their parents find out. 

"My view is that the default position can't be 'how do we keep this from the kid's parents?' The default position needs to be, 'How do we provide that student with the support so that they are comfortable with their parents knowing a decision they want to make?'" he said. 

Duncan also announced that parents must be informed about the sexual health education curriculum offered in their children's schools and have the opportunity to opt out of their children receiving those lessons. Duncan said the changes were driven by parents and that some schools had already begun considering policies. "We certainly have heard from parents on this. Part of the changes today is to provide consistency across the school divisions," Duncan said. ...
Organizations began to weigh in on the changes within hours of the policy announcement. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA) swiftly condemned the policy shift, saying it made it more dangerous to be a LGBTQ student in the province.  "The new policy violates the rights and dignity of 2SLGBTQIA+ young people and is not in the best interest of students," the CCLA said in a statement. "Shredding the rights of students is repulsive. Implementing policy that could result in increased harm to vulnerable youth is disgraceful." The organization said it is ready to take the legal measures necessary to protect the rights of students in Saskatchewan. 

The Saskatchewan Teachers' Federation described the policy as dangerous and driven by political ideology, saying it was a "massive overreach," in a news release Tuesday. "[The government] states that they believe in safe and caring schools, and yet student safety and quality of education are being sacrificed to meet this government's political needs," said Saskatchewan Teachers' Federation president Samantha Becotte in the release. The organization is calling on the province to reverse the change and consult with experts in the education sector.

Lori Johb, president of the Saskatchewan Federation of Labour, issued a simple statement on Tuesday.  "Outing children as part of a political gamble is violent and despicable," she said. 

Duncan dismissed concerns that the changes he announced Tuesday were similar to changes to a gender-identity policy in New Brunswick that made it mandatory to deny a request from a child under 16 to use a specific name or pronoun unless parents consent.

That policy change was found to violate the New Brunswick Human Rights Act, the Education Act and children's charter rights by the province's child and youth advocate last week.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/new-education-policies-sex-e...

6079_Smith_W
jerrym

6079_Smith_W wrote:

"Parental  choice" is a dogwhistle.

https://monitormag.ca/articles/parental-choice-is-a-dog-whistle-lets-rec...

Thanks Winston, great article connecting the parental choice dog whistle to the privatization of the school system, the privilege of the well-off who want to escape the public education system leaving it further under-resourced for the poor, under a populist patriarchal banner that blames the LGBTQ2S+ community for every issue it can think of.

Paladin1

The patriarchy. Should have known.

jerrym

The Conservatives not only adopted anti-trans policies at their convention on the weekend, they also proposed race-based hiring, thereby showing the intersectionality of their discriminatory practices. They also rejected the use of vaccine mandates despite pleas from Conservative doctors.

Conservative delegates voted Saturday to add some new social conservative policies to their policy playbook, including a proposal to limit access to transgender health care for minors and another to do away with vaccine mandates. Despite warnings that these policies could be weaponized by their political opponents to hurt their standing among more moderate voters, a strong majority of the delegates on hand voted for a motion that stated children should be prohibited from gender-related "life-altering medicinal or surgical interventions," and for another that said Canadians should have "bodily autonomy" when it comes to vaccines and other health treatments.

About 69 per cent of the delegates agreed that young people should be barred from gender-affirming care, which sometimes includes hormone-related treatments that delay puberty or promote the development of masculine or feminine sex characteristics.

Michelle Badalich, an Edmonton delegate, said dysphoria is a "mental health disorder" and it should be addressed with treatment not "irreversible procedures. Please protect our kids," she said to thunderous applause.

Liam O'Brien, a Newfoundland and Labrador delegate, noted that "Canada is watching" as Conservatives debate controversial policies like this one. "Canada is also watching our leader kick Justin Trudeau's ass," O'Brien said as he urged delegates to keep the focus on the high cost of living and "Liberal incompetence."

On another transgender-related policy, delegates voted by an overwhelming 87 per cent to support a plan to demand single-sex spaces that are only open to women, which the party now defines as a "female person" with the adoption of the policy. The policy is intended to keep transgender and other gender-diverse people out of women's prisons, shelters, locker rooms and washrooms. Badalich said it's "not extremist" to demand that what she calls "biological women" have a space to call their own. "Vote yes to protect your wives and daughters," said another delegate, a 15-year-old from Sherwood Park, Alta.

A dissenting delegate from Quebec who did not give her name said "the Liberals will love nothing more" than to see Conservatives pass policies like this one and use discriminatory rhetoric to describe sexual minorities. "Please, let's get the Liberals out. Let's get elected," she said.

The convention also adopted a proposal from the Alberta riding of Medicine Hat-Cardston-Warner to impose stiffer penalties on sex offenders and pedophiles. "Children are little angels of the world," a delegate from that riding named Logan said during the debate. He said there are nefarious actors who are trying to "assault, sexualize and traffic our children," and a Poilievre-led government needs to crackdown on the practice. About 86 per cent of the delegates agreed there should be "stronger legislation" from a Poilievre-led government to try and curb these activities.

On the issue of vaccines, an Ontario delegate and medical doctor pleaded with Conservatives to reject mandates so to avoid repeat of what transpired during the COVID-19 health crisis. "Justin Trudeau's coercive, divisive and ineffective vaccine mandate is a violation of the human right to bodily autonomy. Stand up for freedom, stand up for common sense," said Dr. Matt Strauss, the former acting medical officer of health for Haldimand-Norfolk.

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is not bound to adopt any of the policies that were passed at this convention. Poilievre did not take questions from reporters after the votes.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/conservatives-approve-policies-to-...

jerrym

Doug Ford has raised concerns over his trans comments at Ford Fest that he many follow  the Conservative governments of New Brunswick, Saskatchewan and the federal Conservatives in their anti-trans proposals, although his office denies that. Some think this is just a diversionary tactic from his Great Greenbelt Giveaway scandal where the Ford government doled out land to PC party developer donors. 

Premier Doug Ford’s office says his government is not currently exploring any legislative changes to obligate schools to inform parents of how a student identifies. The response comes after concerns were raised over Ford’s comments during Ford Fest on Friday.

At least one group is now demanding a meeting with the premier, while others believe this may be a move to distract from the Greenbelt. Protestors gathered at Premier Ford’s event in Kitchener on Friday. He is still under fire for his controversial plan to build on the Greenbelt. But now there are new concerns over comments made during the appearance.

“Most important is the parents’ rights, the parents’ rights to listen and make sure they are informed when their children make a decision, you know it’s not up to the teachers, it’s not up to the school boards, to indoctrinate our kids…I can’t even figure out what school boards do nowadays by the way…” Those comments sparked worries that the province could bring forward policies that would require parents to be informed of their children’s gender identity at school.

The North Bay Pride organization sent a formal letter to Premier Doug Ford requesting a meeting. “It’s not a parental rights issue, and it’s protected under the human rights code, for students to be protected, and not outed by a school or an administrator.” They say that Ford may put some children at risk who may not have a safe home environment.

On Monday, CHCH News asked the premier’s office if the government intended to pass any legislation obligating schools to inform parents. CHCH News was provided a statement that reads in part, “We’re confident in the existing protocols and are not currently exploring any legislative changes,” and continues to read, “…we expect school boards to be transparent with parents and respect their right to know about life-changing decisions while always ensuring the safety of the child.”

Kiel Hughes of Pride Hamilton is wondering if this is just a distraction to overshadow the Greenbelt controversy. “The province should be focusing on their own scandals and not trying to shift the focus.”

Ontario Green party leader Mike Schreiner agrees, “I think it’s just disgusting that the premier is punching down on trans and non-binary youth to distract from his 8.3 billion dollar Greenbelt scandal. This puts young people at risk.

https://www.chch.com/ford-says-ontario-school-boards-are-indoctrinating-...

Paladin1

jerrym wrote:
they also proposed race-based hiring, thereby showing the intersectionality of their discriminatory practices.

Where did you see that?

6079_Smith_W

Right here.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-policy-convention-transgen...

Perhaps jerrym was just being cheeky. Surely you have read recent studies showing that without rules to even the playing field white people have a race-based advantage.

https://nationalfund.org/racial-bias-in-hiring-practices-widens-the-blac...

 Conservatives obviously want to take us back to the racist good old days, when white people had a far greater chance of getting the job. No surprise they got to do so while claiming they were just being fair.

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Right here.

That doesn't look like proposing race-based hiring to me. That looks like the opposite.

6079_Smith_W

Because your are deliberately denying the racism in hiring that has  been proven by research. Conservatives want to end any measures that get in the way of this racist status quo. Of course they spin it as the "best candidate" but that has been proven to be a racist lie.

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/01/racial-discrimination-in-h...

Paladin1

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Because your are deliberately denying the racism in hiring that has  been proven by research. Conservatives want to end any measures that get in the way of this racist status quo. Of course they spin it as the "best candidate" but that has been proven to be a racist lie.

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/01/racial-discrimination-in-h...

Are you saying the Conservatives proposed race-based hiring?

6079_Smith_W

You can read. What did I just say?

Studies have shown that hiring practices are inherently racist. And that is just one way in which workplaces discriminate against non-whites, and against women.

That is why equal opportunity measures are in place in many workplaces. The notion that this somehow shuts out the best candidate is complete bullshit.

The delegates voted to maintain a system where white people have an unfair benefit. Yes, they voted for racist hiring practices.

 

Paladin1

Conservatives wanting to hire on merit rather than race is race-based hiring. Got it, thanks for clearing that up.

6079_Smith_W

You are welcome. Though again, it isn't me; it is the research which shows what they call "hiring on merit" is really deeply discriminatory in the way it benefits white people and men.

Not surprisingly, this is not the only way in which conservatives claim something is its exact opposite. They say they want to protect children and get parents more involved when really they want is to out them, and have them brutalized, thrown out of the house and driven to suicide.

Maybe Poilievre's gang are also still sore about that time Harper was stopped from "hiring on merit" by unfair rules:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marc-nadon-appointment-rejected-by-supr...

They're always on about freedom, after all, which seems to mean doing whatever the fuck they want.

kropotkin1951

Paladin1 wrote:
6079_Smith_W wrote:

Because your are deliberately denying the racism in hiring that has  been proven by research. Conservatives want to end any measures that get in the way of this racist status quo. Of course they spin it as the "best candidate" but that has been proven to be a racist lie.

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/01/racial-discrimination-in-h...

Are you saying the Conservatives proposed race-based hiring?

It would seem to me that the Conservatives are promising to revoke what little programs we have to deal with systemic discrimination.

When I bargained on behalf of unions there were various types of seniority clauses in collective agreements that covered how employees could advance in a business. One was based on a strict time served and another was based on time served and ability to do the job but the preferred option of all employers was to include employer define "merit" into the mix. I always thought the best option was timed serve and ability to do the job. Evening the playing field is a better goal than either race based preferences or employer preferences.

Mobo2000

"They say they want to protect children and get parents more involved when really they want is to out them, and have them brutalized, thrown out of the house and driven to suicide."

An alternative explanation for the Conservative's position on this issue is that they are being responsive to public opinion.   According to Angus Reid, the policy supported strongly by the progressive left and NDP/Liberal party has about 14% public support (less among parents who have children under 18).

https://angusreid.org/canada-schools-pronouns-policy-transgender-saskatc...

"Asked which policy they prefer for school districts, two-in-five Canadians (43%) say that parents should be informed and must give consent if a child wants to change how they identify. One-in-seven (14%) say that the parent should have no role in this decision. In between these two groups, another one-in-three (35%) feel that parents should be made aware of any changes that are happening at the school but that these changes should not require parental consent. Those Canadians with children younger than 18 feel more strongly about consent than those without school-aged children (48% to 41%)."

Mobo:  With regards to considering race in hiring, the recent US supreme court decision prohibiting the use of race in university enrollment was popular, though the margin is less -- 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-approve-supreme-court-decision...

"A little more than half of Americans -- 52% -- approve of the U.S. Supreme Court decision on restricting the use of race as a factor in college admissions, while 32% disapprove and 16% saying they don't know.

A majority of Republicans (75%) and independents (58%) approve of the ruling, while a distinct minority of Democrats approve (26%).

And there are deep divisions between racial groups. Most white people (60%) and Asian people (58%) approve of the Supreme Court's decision to limit the use of race in college admissions, while only 25% of Black people support the decision. Hispanic people are split, with 40% approving and 40% disapproving."

This has a good nuanced analysis of american attitudes towards affirmative action:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/american-opinion-affirmative-action/

 

 

jerrym

Mobo2000 wrote:

"They say they want to protect children and get parents more involved when really they want is to out them, and have them brutalized, thrown out of the house and driven to suicide."

An alternative explanation for the Conservative's position on this issue is that they are being responsive to public opinion.   According to Angus Reid, the policy supported strongly by the progressive left and NDP/Liberal party has about 14% public support (less among parents who have children under 18).


Human rights do not depend on how popular they are. In fact, it is the opposite. If human rights depended on how popular they were, then they would be meaningless, because those rights that were popular would not need protection, while those that are unpopular would have no protection. Therefore there is always a temptation for politicians, such as the conservatives, to attack groups that have been marginalized to boost their own popularity by defining them as 'other'.

6079_Smith_W

Too bad it has been found to be unconstitutional .

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/n-b-child-advocate-says-lgbtq-policy-in-scho...

I agree with you about them playing to their base, Mobo.

Not that human rights are something decided by opinion polls; they aren't. This is a political move. Hate, ignorance and fear are a good way to get people whipped up. That is most certainly why Saskatchewan is pushing ahead with it even though it has been struck down in New Brunswick, and likely also why the federal conservatives are going after trans kids too.

kropotkin1951

The question in campaigns is never whether any parties like human rights, because they all claim they do, but how do you define human rights? Here is an interesting analysis of affirmative action in the US and Canada.

Affirmative Action
With the exception of White students, Canadian respondents are more opposed than
their American counterparts to race or gender-based special preferences, when it comes
to either job hiring or university admissions. The national differences are statistically
insignificant at the 0.1% level, and in both countries, students are more opposed than faculty
to such preferences. For example, 75% of non-White professors in Canada and 54% of
minority professors in public universities in the US are strictly meritocratic in their out-
looks; they think that no one should be granted such preferences. This view is held by
89% of non-White students in Canada and 71% of students in public colleges and universities in the US. The positional differences concerning special preferences are statistically
significant at the 1% level in all cases. Racial differences on this issue among both Canadian students and U.S. faculty are statistically insignificant. Minority faculty in Canada
are more opposed than their U.S. counterparts and, to a lesser extent, White faculty and
non-White students in Canada, to admitting more minority students if it means relaxing
normal academic requirements (see Table 3).

Staff positional differences between faculty and students are more striking than national differences when it comes to attitudes towards special preferences based on gender
or race. In the US, half of female professors, and 86% of female students, agree with the
view that “no one should be given special preference in jobs or college admissions on the
basis of their gender or race.” This view is held by 57% of female faculty members and 89%\
of female students in Canada. The positional differences on this question among both male
and female respondents in the US and Canada are statistically significant at the 0.1% level.
But gender differences on these issues do matter. Notice that male professors in both
countries are more opposed than female professors to either gender- or race-based preferences. The relationship is statistically significant at the 0.1% level in Canada and the 5%
level in the US. Similarly, male professors and students in both countries are less inclined
than their female counterparts to support courses on the experience of women. These differences are also statistically significant.

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1086949.pdf

6079_Smith_W

You might also ask what "meritocratic" means.

Anyone who has been on a hiring committee knows it is rather like making sausage. I am not surprised a majority of people pay lip service to it though. Who wants to think they got their job any other way (even though that isn't how it really works)?

JKR

The sad fact is that schools have to deal with some parents who don't accept their kids are lgbtqia2s+. Unfortunately schools have to respond to a situation where many lgbtqia2s+ kids are forced to live on the streets and where far too many lgbtqia2s+ kids are attempting suicide and committing suicide. Unfortunately far too many conservatives don't seem to care about that in order to get more votes.

Michael Moriarity

JKR wrote:

Unfortunately far too many conservatives don't seem to care about that in order to get more votes.


In many cases, the motivation isn't even just gaining votes. Many conservatives, both voters and office holders, seem to feel that children are the property of their parents, to be controlled in the same way as a dog or cat would be. It is a truly ugly attitude, but it is all too common.

6079_Smith_W

True.

But at the provincial level, in our province for certain, this is political - for one thing the Sask Party watching further right parties eat their lunch on these fear and hate issues.

It is also just another way for them to paint Ottawa (in this case when and if this eventually works its way to the Supreme Court) as the boogeyman trying to be the boss of us. The Sask United Party (led by former Sask Party member Nadine Wilson, kicked out because she lied about her COVID status) has already called on Moe to invoke the notwithstanding clause.

So they already know they are going to lose in the courts. That is just fine with them because it is going to whip up their base, and hopefully draw back some of those who are further to the right.

Action4Canada, a far right religious group (also mobilizing on the anti-vax and trucker blockade front) said they influenced the province on the new outing policy. As well, in the days after the policy was announced, Scott Moe replaced Dustin Duncan as education minister with Jeremy Cockerill, a graduate of Trinity Western who also served on the board. Trinity Western had its law school accreditation taken away because of its anti-gay policies.

JKR

Michael Moriarity wrote:

In many cases, the motivation isn't even just gaining votes. Many conservatives, both voters and office holders, seem to feel that children are the property of their parents, to be controlled in the same way as a dog or cat would be. It is a truly ugly attitude, but it is all too common.

I agree that’s it over much more than just gaining votes. Many small c conservatives want to turn society into a pro fundamentalist Christian society. Often these Christian fundamentalist conservatives oppose the parental rights of people from groups they oppose so their objections aren’t really about increasing parental rights. It’s been disgusting lately and very dangerous watching right wingers associating the LGBTQ+ community with child grooming.

jerrym

And as the anti-trans movement grows, the anti-LGTQ2S+ hate crimes have begun. 

Calgary police are investigating three potential hate-motivated crimes that targeted members of the LGBT community over the long weekend.

"It is shocking to see anyone targeted for a crime because of a personal characteristic, but it is extremely disturbing to see the same community targeted three times in one weekend," Sgt. Arlene Padnivelan, with the Calgary police diversity resource team, said in an emailed release Tuesday.

"It is unacceptable that this is happening and we will absolutely investigate any time a crime is motivated by hate or bias."

On midday Friday, a man was assaulted and called homophobic slurs by a group of men near the intersection of 17th Avenue and 12th Street S.W., police said.

On Saturday at 1 p.m., a drag king was recording a video on the rainbow crosswalk at the intersection of Centre Street and Stephen Avenue S.W., when a man spat on the performance artist. Police are investigating and collecting security camera footage to help identify the man. 

And on Monday, a same-sex couple was walking near the intersection of Ninth Street and Memorial Drive N.W. when two men and two women on electric scooters approached them.

Police said it's believed the two men on scooters assaulted the couple because of their sexual orientation, using a belt, rocks and a recycling bin as weapons. 

Police searched the area but couldn't locate the group. The victims were treated for injuries that were non-life-threatening.

The two suspects in that assault are both described as being about 30-years-old, of average height and build, with trim black beards and short black hair. One was wearing black-framed glasses, a white polo shirt, dark pants, brown loafers and white socks. The other was wearing a grey polo shirt with a white collar and sleeves, grey pants and white runners.

A systemic problem

Irfan Chaudhry, director of MacEwan University's Office of Human Rights, Diversity and Equity, and a hate crime researcher, said it's important to look at these incidents with a broad lens to see the systemic issues at play, not just as one-offs. 

"It's another unfortunate example of what we're seeing in terms of anti-LGBTQ2S incidents and crimes," he said. 

Chaudhry said the challenge with reporting incidents comes with "more subtle acts of hate" that perhaps might not meet the criminal threshold but still have a negative impact on victims.

"Unfortunately, our Criminal Code is very specific in terms of hate-crime legislation," he said. 

"People often feel like why even report it to police."

While it can be difficult to change laws, Chaudhry said, there is room for conversation about how existing laws can be supplemented. 

"I think there's ways to beef up language that we currently have," he said. 

We fully recognize that sometimes people do not want to involve the police or don't feel comfortable coming to us for help.- Sgt. Arlene Padnivelan

Hate-motivated crimes are crimes where the offender was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on one of nine personal characteristics of the victim, police said, like gender, race or religion. 

Police said they encourage anyone who has been targeted for ill treatment or a crime because of their identity to report it so the perpetrators can be held accountable.

The hate motivation is only considered once an offender is found guilty, where it can be considered an aggravating factor to add to the convicted person's sentence. 

Involving police in an incident can be a complicated decision, especially for members of marginalized groups. 

Police said if someone feels uncomfortable coming forward through traditional channels, they or someone they trust can reach out directly to the diversity resource team or hate crimes co-ordinator by calling 403-428-8399 to find a way to feel more comfortable filing a report. 

"We fully recognize that sometimes people do not want to involve the police or don't feel comfortable coming to us for help," Padnivelan said.

"We respect the wishes of those who are most affected by the incident and never force a victim to participate in a police investigation. However, if there is a way we can help make a person feel safe enough to come forward, we want to try do that."

Albertans can also document hate incidents through the province's online reporting tool, StopHateAB.ca.

Update Aug. 7, 2020: The two men accused in the incident at Ninth Street and Memorial Drive N.W. were identified after photos were released by police. CBC News is not naming the men because they have not been charged, but they say they and their families have received threats after being publicly identified elsewhere.

"Quite simply, stories have been circulated about us that are simply false," they said in a statement. "We fully intend to defend ourselves."

"We ask that the public remember the common wisdom that every story has two sides. We will provide ours in due course."

Calgary police removed the photos from their website after the men were identified. CBC News has also removed the photos from its site.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/homophobic-crimes-calgary-1.5674355

 

jerrym

Even in January LGBTQ2S+ people were sensing the growing danger of violence as the anti-trans movement grew and spread from the US to Canada. 

Canadian LGBTQ2 community members and advocates say the past year has been difficult and scary amid a notable rise in hate crimes, threats and protests against drag queens and transgender people in particular.

The solution, they say, is education and support from allies to counter homophobia and anti-trans hate — particularly baseless accusations of pedophilia and “grooming” children, which they say only feeds threats and acts of violence.

“We are seeing some really great changes in terms of acceptance in society, but most queer and trans people I know are still worried about their safety,” said Fae Johnstone, executive director of Wisdom2Action, in an interview with Mercedes Stephenson on The West Block Sunday.

“I’ve been doing this work as a queer and trans advocate for a decade. It’s never been as scary out there as it is right now.”

Kyne, a drag queen who competed on the first season of Canada’s Drag Race, told Stephenson that although she’s seen more acceptance as drag becomes more mainstream, she has also faced a rise in hate over the past “weird year.”

“It’s been a year that I’ve been able to thrive as a drag queen,” said Kyne, who also teaches math online — while fully decked out in drag — to millions of followers and speaks at universities and schools across Canada and the U.S.

But “pretty much every time I do that, there’s always some sort of backlash online. I get called a groomer, a pedophile. Every organization that brings me, there’s calls to fire them. … And I’m just talking about math.”

Anti-LGBTQ2 hate has been particularly prominent in the U.S., where lawmakers are actively working to limit gender expression and discussion of queer identity in schools and hateful rhetoric has spiked in conservative media channels.

Last November, a gunman killed five people and wounded 25 others at a LGBTQ+ nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colo., shining a new light on the dangers queer people face.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9393280/canada-lgbtq-hate-trans-west-block/

jerrym

Protests and counter-protests are occurring today across Canada as the movement and the politicians pushing it in the various conservative parties try to take advantage of the situation. "Almost two-thirds of LGBTQ students don't feel safe at school, compared with 11 per cent of heterosexual students, and attempts to erase them from school curriculums are hateful." CBC News Network is reporting last night that a queer book in Calgary had its windows smashed in as anti-trans hate turns to violence.

Protests and counter-protests for and against Canada's trans and LGBTQ community are being planned across Canada on Wednesday. 

Posters created by a group called "1MillionMarch4Children" say rally participants are "standing together against gender ideology in schools." 

Sarah Worthman, an LGBTQ advocate who is helping organize at least 63 counter-protests across the country, said Canadians need to stand up for the community outside of Pride events. 

“Allyship is a verb,” she said, as she called on supporters to stand in solidarity with LGBTQ folks who have increasingly been the subject of hate and political debate by attending the No Space for Hate events.

“There’s this small but vocal minority of far-right individuals who constantly think they’re the majority, and that everyone shares their views,” Worthman said. 

She said she hopes the planned counter-protests can help show most Canadians are generally supportive, while countering hateful messaging they expect from protesters. 

“Doing these small things shows there is social pushback,” she said. “There is real danger in all of this.”

British Columbia's Human Rights Commissioner, Kasari Govender, called the anti-LGBTQ marches "hate-fuelled" and said while peaceful demonstration protects democracy and generates debate, the human rights of the trans and LGBTQ community "is not up for debate."

She said in a statement Tuesday that an inquiry by her office showed almost two-thirds of LGBTQ students don't feel safe at school, compared with 11 per cent of heterosexual students, and attempts to erase them from school curriculums are hateful.

Worthman said politicians, too, “should be louder” about their support for the LGBTQ community, and against individuals who seek to further marginalize members. 

Clint Johnston, the president of the BC Teachers' Federation, wrote a letter to B.C. Premier David Eby about the union's concerns about the planned protests. 

He said they're part of a co-ordinated attack against the trans and LGBTQ community. 

"These rallies are part of a movement across North America that uses 'parental consent' as a dog whistle for rising homophobia and transphobia. This movement is concerning and must be stopped," he said in the letter. 

Children in British Columbia's public schools are taught sexual orientation and gender identity programs. 

In response to Johnston's letter, the premier said school must be a place where every student feels secure and it's upsetting to see misinformation and disinformation used to attack vulnerable children and youth.

"Without hesitation, I denounce threats, hate and violence against 2SLGBTQIA+ communities. We are seeing a concerning rise in incidents where trans people are being targeted with threats and violence in person and online," Eby said in the statement.

"We cannot and must not stand idly by in the face of any kind of bullying. Any political leader who targets our most vulnerable, at-risk children and youth is no leader at all."

A statement from the City of Whitehorse said it is aware of a march planned for Sept. 20 in the Yukon city, and anti-LGBTQ messaging that targets community members will not be tolerated.

Bylaw officers in Whitehorse are also aware of the planned march as a counter-protest and the city said RCMP will be monitoring.

Govender said in a statement that those who want to "protect" children by removing school-based supports for gay, bisexual, trans and other students are misinformed. 

"As a parent, I plead with those who may think they are protecting their children: Erasing LGBTQ2SAI+ people from our curriculum will not change your child’s identity, but it will make schools, and the LGBTQ2SAI+ people in them, less safe," she said. 

Trans people have become the focus of a "surge of disinformation, conspiracy theories and hate," Govender said.

"This is not only about hate on the basis of gender identity; these rallies are an affront to human dignity, expression and rights for all of us," she said.

A letter from Govender to Eby, urged him to release details about the effectiveness of 12 recommendations Govender's office submitted to the province in March.

The recommendations flowed from a public inquiry that examined reports of hate in B.C. and provide a "road map of how to take tangible and transformative action against hate," Govender said.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/09/20/news/counter-protests-canada...

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