Free Palestine!

melovesproles wrote:

JKR wrote:

Instead of waiting endlessly for that I think it would be better to implement international law that supports the implementation of a negotiated two-state solution.

Do you think it should require negotiation to implement international law in regards to Israel's continuous illegal settlement building in the occupied territories? Since when does a victim need to negotiate with their assailant when a crime has been committed? If international law existed in any real sense, those settlements wouldn't exist let alone be multiplying.

Israelis and many others also feel that Israelis are also victims and Palestinians, other Arabs, Muslims, and Iranians are their assailants. Many countries and many in the international community see Israelis and Arabs as both being victims and assailants of each other. That's why negotiations have been seen as the solution according to UNSC resolutions like UNSC 242. International law sees the solution as being "Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/240/94/PDF/NR024094.pdf?OpenElement

What do you mean when you say "the regime must fall"?

What system should Israel change to? And shouldn't it be up to them to decide what system they have? 

Many countries in the the world support a specific religion. Why should Israel be singled out for criticism for supporting Judaism when many counties support other religions?

JKR wrote:

Many countries in the the world support a specific religion. Why should Israel be singled out for criticism for supporting Judaism when many counties support other religions?

Name the other countries that have immigration based on religion and rights of citizenship based on religion. Canada does not make Jewish people second class citizen, that it reserves for Indians. Palestinians in Israel are now controlled almost as much as we used to control Indians when they could not leave their reserves without the permission of the Indian Agent.

melovesproles wrote:

JKR wrote:

International law sees the solution as being "Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

Termination = Stop. Not negotiate.

The international community including China, the US, and Russia supports the negotiation of a two state solution between Israel and Palestinian leaders.

JKR wrote:

melovesproles wrote:

JKR wrote:

International law sees the solution as being "Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

Termination = Stop. Not negotiate.

The international community including China, the US, and Russia supports the negotiation of a two state solution between Israel and Palestinian leaders.

 

The international community has also been united in telling Israel to stop building settlements in Palestinian territory with many saying that the settlements are the biggest obstacle to a two-state solution but Israel has continued to build them. How many viable states have the territorial integrity of Swiss Cheese?

Thousands marched through the streets of Hebron on Friday at the funeral of a Palestinian Authority critic who died in PA custody, with many calling for the end of President Mahmoud Abbas’s 16-year rule.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-protest-abbas-at-funeral-for-activist-who-died-in-pa-custody/

kropotkin1951 wrote:

One would have to first believe that Christ is an actual historic figure

I think many (probably most) people do believe exactly that - including those of non-Christian, even anti-Christian religioms as well as many atheists. I believe it myself and I think there is ample evidence, as for instance in Roman reccords from the time.

Michael Moriarity wrote:

The historicity of Jesus is an interesting question, with serious people on both sides, but I think the scholarly consensus is that he was a real person. Here is a pretty good video discussing the evidence.

Thanks for that link, MM. I loved this statement:

"Ideally the sources we employ should be unbisaed and neutral, but of course this is pretty much a lost cause."

Also the reference to 'people who receive the truth with pleasure'. I wish I knew more of those.

Confident of Support From the West, the Palestinian Authority Violently Suppresses Protests

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/.premium-confident-of-support-from-the-west-the-pa-suppresses-protests-violently-1.9946744

queenmandy85 wrote:

If Israel really was genocidal, there would not be any Palistinians. The solution to the issue rests with the Israeliis and the Palistinians, not the Russians, Americans or Canadians. There will be no peace until both sides can reach a compromise that pleases both. I didn't believe Israel would ever have peace with Egypt or Jordan. There is hope. 

The Nazi's didn't manage to wipe out all the Roma or Jews or leftists that they targeted with death camps. I guess that proves they weren't genocidal.

NDPP wrote:

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Mélanie Joly

@melaniejoly

Canada government official

Violence in & around al-Aqsa is unacceptable. The sanctity and status quo of holy sites must be respected. We call for de-escalation of tensions. Canada stands with the Israeli and Palestinian peoples in their right to peace & security.

1:56 PM · Apr 15, 2022