The demonization of China

Hopefully China doesn't end up suffering from their own economic bubble as many economists in China and around the world are worrying very much about.

According to General Milley, the Chinese "spy balloon" wasn't spying after all.

David Martin, CBS News wrote:

It was surely the most bizarre crisis of the Biden administration: America's top-of-the-line jet fighters being sent up to shoot down, of all things, a balloon – a Chinese spy balloon that was floating across the United States, which had the nation and its politicians in a tizzy.

Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.

So, why was it over the United States? There are various theories, with at least one leading theory that it was blown off-track.

It was an informatin gathering balloon launched by a private Chinese company to collect data on air stream movements. Of course to some people everything about China is a secret plot to destroy our society.

I believe that most of the US media says it is a spy balloon. Of course to some people everything about China is a secret plot to destroy our society.

The real point is that it was not a spy balloon and he says it is. I expect no less from US media. Everyday they cover stories from around the globe that are basically lies and call them the truth.  All countries need to know that US national strategic interests are always paramount and supersede all international laws and norms. They adhere strictly to the rules based order. That is were they set the rules and order the rest of the world to follow them. In that world a private Chinese companies meteorological balloon is always going to be a spy balloon.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

The real point is that it was not a spy balloon and he says it is.

You have made that claim repeatedly. It isn't relevant to what I am saying. You want to call him a liar, fine. That isn't what I am talking about.

My point is that a lot of the coverage hasn't accurately reported what Milley said. I had to watch the interview to hear what he really said in order to be sure. To repeat, he said it was a spy balloon, but that it did not collect any information while over the U.S.

No surprise that he doesn't get into the details of why.

Well clearly that flew right over your head.

Tell The Media: DISARM THE DISCOURSE

We are urging the media to disarm the discourse by rejecting sourcing from anonymous intelligence officials with a pro-war bias and instead engage in ethical and common-sense journalism regarding China.

Dear Editorial Staff (The New York Times/The Wall Street Journal),

Before the US military shot down a Chinese weather balloon earlier this year, your outlets cited unnamed officials who claimed it was a spy vessel. This not only escalated tensions with another nuclear-armed state; it also led to attacks on civilian balloons and an increase in anti-Asian hate. The New York Times uncritically published a story about the US State Department’s global propaganda campaign to scare other countries about the threat of Chinese balloon surveillance. On June 29, when US Air Force Brigadier General Pat Ryder refuted claims the balloon collected data, a Wall Street Journal article published a story using the phrase “spy balloon” on the same day.

From stories about the supposed threat of Chinese AI capabilities to the COVID-19 lab leak theory, the media has been consistently getting China wrong. A Princeton University study found Americans who perceive China as a threat were more likely to stereotype Chinese people as untrustworthy and immoral. As we approach the 2024 presidential elections (usually a period of increased anti-China hate) and the COP28 climate talks in Dubai, there are still many among the American public who DO NOT want tensions to escalate; neither do we want Chinese Americans and Chinese nationals in the US to be afraid for their lives.

Faced with this crisis in coverage, we demand ethical and common-sense journalism that seeks truth from facts, not rumors and omissions. Moreover, the overhanded use of anonymous intelligence officials is doing a disservice to bilateral relations and potentially puts us on the path to a hot war in the Pacific. We urge you to go beyond the reliance on shoddy intelligence, which has led us to multiple wars abroad over the past two decades.

We implore your publications, which set a crucial part of the national agenda, to accurately report about China and China-US relations. Not only will this help advance a normal relationship between the world’s two largest economies. It could lay the groundwork for mutual understanding and a more well-informed public discourse in the US when it comes to China. That way, we won’t repeat the mistakes of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, in which the UN estimates 9,000 civilians have died as of July 2023. We urge you to disarm the discourse!

Onwards to peace!

There is a War Coming, Shrouded in Propaganda

https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/01/02/there-is-a-war-coming-shrou...

"John Pilger's final essay investigates why today there is 'a silence filled by a consensus of propaganda.' as the world's two greatest powers draw closer to conflict..."

As usual CNN conflates anti-Israeli sentiment with antisemitism. Israel is a genocidal country. I can decry German and Belgian and UK genocides without being accused of hating Christians because they are all Christian countries.

I consider myself prosemite since I have no problem with Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, or Phoenicians.

CNN has taken a surprising 180 degree turn, and is now upset that Chinese people have too much freedom of speech. Reporter Will Ripley is suggesting that anti-Semitism is going unchecked on Chinese social media, and claiming the “evil CCP” might be behind it! But, as usual, his “evidence” is extremely lacking. Today, we’ll take a closer look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6k0uDZF3S0

That dog don't hunt anymore. And it seems some self-professed 'anti-zionists' are in fact pro-zionist and pro-genocide too.

JKR wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

I consider myself prosemite since I have no problem with Arabs, Jews, Akkadians, or Phoenicians.

It seems that many self professed “prosemites” are antisemites.

Says the man who pleads for a respectful board without personal insults.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCcZqcPOlNM

Pelosi to [Gaza] Protesters (&vid)

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1752021755995025689

"Go back to China where your headquarters is!"

Just another paranoid Sinophobic embezzler. Or perhaps too much ice-cream froze her brain. Why American hegemony and governance is in such steep decline.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

To me your sentence sounds like you are mocking antisemitism since you included “Akkadians and Phoenicians.” I think you are aware of the fact that Akkadians and Phoenicians were ancient civilizations, and their descendants no longer exist as distinct groups.

I think you are not understanding that the term semetic is a larger group than just people of Jewish descent. The Akkadians are in fact modern day Arabs that you hate so passionately.

DNA taken from modern people in Iraq like the Assyrians, Marsh Arabs, Mandaeans and Iraqi Arabs show they have a common origin going back to ancient Mesopotamia.

The majority of Lebanese, according to DNA, are descendants of the Phoenicians. Being a semite is a matter of ethnicity not religion. Almost all of the people who are from West Asia are semites.

 

I don’t “hate Arabs.” That is just another one of your very many absurd and disgusting ad hominem attacks you are continuously making against me like when you called me “a terrorist.”

Your convoluted explanation about antisemitism including all Semites rings false to me. The term “antisemitism” is well established and I think you know that as you should.

Antisemitism

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095417471

Hostility towards and discrimination against Jewish people (although there are other Semitic peoples, notably the Arabs, anti‐Semitism is only used to refer to prejudice against Jewish people).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism)[a] is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews.[2][3]

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fu...

Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism

anti-Semitism, (see Researcher’s Note) hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time. Nazi anti-Semitism, which culminated in the Holocaust, had a racist dimension in that it targeted Jews because of their supposed biological characteristics—even those who had themselves converted to other religions or whose parents were converts. This variety of anti-Jewish racism dates only to the emergence of so-called “scientific racism” in the 19th century and is different in nature from earlier anti-Jewish prejudices.

The persistence of anti-Semitism into the 21st century and the marked rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the early decades of the century have prompted new consideration of how to define and combat the phenomenon, which has both incorporated old tropes and taken on new forms.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism

Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.

Here is a great interview. A must see for all those who think that China is an imperial country.

I love it when African leaders school Western reporters.

Watch this video as President Museveni of Uganda claims china investment over west. He says that China means business without interference and lectures to leaders. Get ready for an insightful journey into the complexities of international relations and diplomatic dynamics. The president was speaking in Kampala to German media house, Spiegel International.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NmGWi0_jIE

The Big China Con

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But the inquiry itself clearly would not exist if not for a cascade of so-called scoops that emerged from Global News and The Globe and Mail, beginning in the fall of 2022 and continuing through the spring of last year—stories claiming that China has been interfering in Canada’s political system. These stories whipped Ottawa into a frenzy of recrimination and finger pointing for months and finally pressed Trudeau to appoint the  public inquiry last September.

The controversy was clearly a gift for Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre and his party, who often twisted the allegations into blatant fabrications—such as claiming that China was responsible for Tory candidates losing seats during the last federal election and China helped Trudeau return to office. 

There is indeed evidence China interferes in Canada—whether it’s intimidating the Chinese diaspora, laundering money, conducting espionage, or trying to steal industrial and government secrets. Yet other governments carry out similar activities in Canada. 

But a closer examination of these media stories finds they contain glaring oversights and omissions, unjustifiable conclusions, issues often taken wildly out of context, and outright falsehoods.

There is indeed evidence China interferes in Canada—whether it’s intimidating the Chinese diaspora, laundering money, conducting espionage, or trying to steal industrial and government secrets. Yet other governments carry out similar activities in Canada. 

But a closer examination of these media stories finds they contain glaring oversights and omissions, unjustifiable conclusions, issues often taken wildly out of context, and outright falsehoods.

“I didn’t get a sense from the media reporting either from Global News or The Globe and Mail that they frankly really understood the larger process through which intelligence worked, and they didn’t have much interest in trying to understand that,” says Wesley Wark, a former international relations scholar at the universities of Toronto and Ottawa who served two terms on the Prime Minister’s Advisory Council on National Security under Stephen Harper......