Trudeau as the Perfect Neoliberal Prime Minister.

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Trudeau as the Perfect Neoliberal Prime Minister.

 

Perfection can be achieved simply by cooking the criteria

We can achieve perfection all too easily simply cooking the criteria. It is a very common practice these days and signals the downfall of Western civilization as we are lying ourselves to death.  Cook the criteria and Barack Obama gets the Nobel peace Prize when he leads the world’s most barbarian warmongering and lawless state.  We cook the criteria with endless propaganda and Vladimir Putin becomes the new Hitler, when all he wants is Russia’s right to exist in the face of American aggression. We claim the American puppet regime in Kiev marks the arrival of democracy when it is actually neo-Nazi. We  claim 9/11 was not a false flag inside job but to watch the towers fall over and over and over again we can only conclude they had a helping hand, and it follows, the war on terror is the consequent  fabrication to justify endless warfare… and so it goes, on and on

The world right now is rife with neoliberal politicians willing to put profits before people, pander to endless corporate warfare, serve as bagmen for multi-national corporations and corrupt banksters, see government denigrated, and democracy undermined. They are elected by the people but retreat from real governance to be courtesans to corporate power.

Closer to home we can cook the criteria and claim Justin Trudeau would be the perfect prime minister but only as a neoliberal and never as a liberal.

It is little wonder that most Canadians want Harper deposed. He hides under the conservative brand (as a multitude of other politicians do) but he is actually a neoliberal.  He warned us we would not recognize the country after he was through and he has been good to his word.  Where the Chretien Liberals before him were in many aspects neoliberal, Harper is rabidly neoliberal in his contempt for government and willingness to betray the public interest- it is no coincidence the middle class is becoming extinct-it is by design.

There are few differences between Harper and Trudeau.  Harper has been a very proactive neoliberal whereas Trudeau is an incipient-in-waiting.  Harper is a misanthrope and Trudeau a glad-hander. Where Harper is driven by doctrinaire ideology, Trudeau is driven by adulation and momentary pragmatisms- the essence of the not so distinguished Canadian Liberal tradition.

Just as Harper ran as a conservative and turned out to be neoliberal Trudeau is likewise running as a Liberal when he is clearly neoliberal. Though they are very different personalities they are brothers at heart.  Where Harperites have sharp elbows and mean spirits, a Trudeau government will appear more benign but will still perpetuate the grand neoliberal scam with a sunnier disposition but equal treachery- much like the Republicans and Democrats in the US. Both the CPC and the LPC have been well tutored by their American counterparts, both neoliberal parties. As the US devolves into a neoliberal single party state we obediently follow.

So it comes to pass, the criteria has been cooked, Canada actually has two neoliberal parties and that is two too many.   Trudeau could be the perfect neoliberal prime minister-but is that what we really want? 

 

 

 

Pondering

indigo 007 wrote:

So it comes to pass, the criteria has been cooked, Canada actually has two neoliberal parties and that is two too many.   Trudeau could be the perfect neoliberal prime minister-but is that what we really want?

Is there a party available that will denounce neoliberalism?

ikosmos ikosmos's picture

 

indigo, you would make your case stronger if you could provide more examples of how the Trudeau "Liberals" are much the same as the Harper "Conservatives". Let me help with an example.

Under the previous (Chretien and Martin) regimes, the brutal transformation of the Federal Civil Service with the establishment of "pools" of precarious employees [called cesspools by observant critics], the silencing of dissent [Health Canada and its jackboot treatment of Shiv Chopra et al], and all the other "blessings" of neo-liberalism continued under the even MORE neo-liberal jackboot Harper regime, with an all-out war on scientists, limb-severing cuts to the Civil Service, etc.

LIke that.

lagatta

O cripes, of course Trudeau is a neoliberal. But Putin is not nearly as benign as you claim. These are all neoliberals seeking profit and power.

I don't support Trudeau or neoliberalism.

But this is utter crap: "We cook the criteria with endless propaganda and Vladimir Putin becomes the new Hitler, when all he wants is Russia’s right to exist in the face of American aggression"

I am so sick of Putinist spamming of this progressive site. It has NOTHING to do with building the left.

 

 

Debater

Over the weekend I resigned myself to the likelihood of Harper winning this year's election.

Neither the NDP nor the Liberals seem to get it.

And this thread is yet another example of that.

lagatta

I don't know why you say that; Putinist spammers have a very marginal impact on Canadian federal elections. They are just annoying as all hell.

Debater

I'm also referring to the fighting between the Liberals & NDP.

Neither party seems to realize how formidable the Conservatives are or how strong the Conservative base is in this country.  They seem to think they have the luxury of carrying on their own feud while the Conservatives spread their tentacles even farther across the country, even into Québec.

NDP supporters want to portray Trudeau as a right-winger (eg. this thread title) rather than acknowledging he is more progressive than Harper and is different in many ways, and the Liberals seem to think they should govern on their own and don't have to work with the NDP.

Aristotleded24

Debater wrote:
Neither party seems to realize how formidable the Conservatives are or how strong the Conservative base is in this country.

There is as we speak a strong NDP insurgency happening in Harper's backyard. It will take a few more weeks to see how strong this surge becomes after the votes are counted.

Pondering

Debater wrote:

I'm also referring to the fighting between the Liberals & NDP.

Neither party seems to realize how formidable the Conservatives are or how strong the Conservative base is in this country.  They seem to think they have the luxury of carrying on their own feud while the Conservatives spread their tentacles even farther across the country, even into Québec.

NDP supporters want to portray Trudeau as a right-winger (eg. this thread title) rather than acknowledging he is more progressive than Harper and is different in many ways, and the Liberals seem to think they should govern on their own and don't have to work with the NDP.

Surely you don't think the NDP is being sincere in their offer of a coalition?

Jacob Two-Two

Everyone knows the NDP would jump at any chance to take government. It would be obviously insincere if they claimed they wouldn't form a coalition.

Pondering

Jacob Two-Two wrote:

Everyone knows the NDP would jump at any chance to take government. It would be obviously insincere if they claimed they wouldn't form a coalition.

Well that deserves a thread but I very much doubt Mulcair would be willing to second Trudeau. 

Debater

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Debater wrote:
Neither party seems to realize how formidable the Conservatives are or how strong the Conservative base is in this country.

There is as we speak a strong NDP insurgency happening in Harper's backyard. It will take a few more weeks to see how strong this surge becomes after the votes are counted.

There's certainly some sort of PROVINCIAL upheaval in Alberta right now.

But not only do we not know how the provincial election will turn out, it doesn't necessarily bear any relation to what will happen Federally.

There's also the matter of Ontario.

Debater

Jacob Two-Two wrote:

Everyone knows the NDP would jump at any chance to take government. It would be obviously insincere if they claimed they wouldn't form a coalition.

Then why did every NDP leadership contender except Nathan Cullen rule it out?

Jacob Two-Two

They ruled out a pre-election co-operation strategy, because that's stupid. Nobody in the NDP has ever said they wouldn't join with another party to form government in a minority parliament, nor would anybody believe such nonsense if they did.

Debater

I'm not going to have this debate again, Jacob.  You aren't able to be objective about it.

The links & press articles have been posted many times showing that Mulcair was opposed to any type of cooperation or coalition with the Liberals.  That was what everyone understood it to mean.  It was only when LPC passed him in the polls that he changed his mind.

Brachina

 They were all taking about Merger, not coalitions, I mean my goodness Debater the NDP supports PR were coalitions are almost the default. Some people may have used coalition instead of Merger, but its obvious what they were talking about. Mulcair was at the negoitating table during the last attempt at a coalition.

Debater

So was Trudeau.  He signed onto the Dion-Layton coalition.

Sean in Ottawa

Debater wrote:

Jacob Two-Two wrote:

Everyone knows the NDP would jump at any chance to take government. It would be obviously insincere if they claimed they wouldn't form a coalition.

Then why did every NDP leadership contender except Nathan Cullen rule it out?

That is untrue. They ruled out mergers and pre-election arrangements. Mulcair spoke in a sloppy way that suggested he would rule out any arrangement but the context was not about that. There was a proposal to consider a merger which was soundly rejected.

Sean in Ottawa

Debater wrote:

I'm not going to have this debate again, Jacob.  You aren't able to be objective about it.

The links & press articles have been posted many times showing that Mulcair was opposed to any type of cooperation or coalition with the Liberals.  That was what everyone understood it to mean.  It was only when LPC passed him in the polls that he changed his mind.

I agree he was posturing to the extreme of the topic during the leadership race. But you have doubled down here claiming ALL candidates other than Cullen said that. In fact that is totally false. Most NDP candidates were clear about not wanting a merger but quite silent on the topic of a post election coalition.

Sean in Ottawa

There are rumblings here that some of us cannot tell the difference between Trudeau and Harper. I want to put this to bed and say this is absolutely false. As proof I want to provide my top ten list of significant differences between the two:

1) Trudeau is younger

2) Trudeau's French is better

3) Trudeau bounces babies while Harper scares kittens

4) Trudeau loves his father and Harper, well, he doesn't love Trudeau’s father.

5) Trudeau has nice hair while Harper has a helmet head

6) Trudeau can grow a beard while we don't think Harper can

7) Trudeau can box better than Harper (although those two punching each other would sell out faster than a Stanley Cup final)

8) Trudeau's wife loves him (we think)

9) Trudeau does not play piano as well as Harper

10) Trudeau wants you to think he is progressive while Harper would be offended at the accusation

mark_alfred

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

4) Trudeau loves his father and Harper, well, he doesn't love Trudeau’s father.

JT's support for Bill C-51 suggests otherwise.  Supporting Bill-C51 only serves to undermine the Charter, which was his father's biggest legacy.

Sean in Ottawa

mark_alfred wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

4) Trudeau loves his father and Harper, well, he doesn't love Trudeau’s father.

JT's support for Bill C-51 suggests otherwise.  Supporting Bill-C51 only serves to undermine the Charter, which was his father's biggest legacy.

I did not accuse Trudeau of making sense.

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

In fairness, Trudeau has to be able to disagree with his father if he is to be taken seriously as a politician with his own mind. Disagreeing on the Charter rather than economic policy is a mistake. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a political third rail.

It's Trudeau's job to distinguish the Liberal Party from the Conservatives by standing up for Charter issues and the rule of law in this country.

For civil libertarians and the left wing of the legal community the Liberals no longer seem to be champions of traditional Charter values. Now that job has fallen to the NDP.

NDPP

Trudeau 'Honoured' At Atlantic Council

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/910296476613570560

"Worldwide the long established international order is being tested...Watch live as I speak at the AC's 2017 Awards"

And Canada's drama teacher clearly knows his place in it too. Obviously with NATO/CIA/US State,  which the Atlantic Council represents - he's a hit!. Chrystia's Banderite buddies from the UCC are regulars there, so perhaps she put in a good word for him. No doubt this is also a warm-up act for his UN speech on Thursday..

"I have done the [United] State[s] some service and they know't." - (with apologies to Shakespeare)