Apparently there was lots of Liberal sleaze. Has anyone heard about the Owl's Head Park issue?
https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/owls-head-fate-debated-in-...
Nova Scotia election 2021
Tue, 2021-08-17 22:00
#52
Tue, 2021-08-17 22:05
#53
Liberal leader Rankin just committed a faux pas by going on TV after NDP leader Burrill had barely begun speaking, a norm that was once rarely violated by anyone in any party. Trudeau and Scheer did the same with Trudeau interrupting Scheer and Scheer interrupting Singh in the 2019 election. I guess Rankin didn't like the election results and said to hell with the niceities.
The 2019 federal election campaign was described as many things — nasty, divisive, and messy were some. And then came the final speeches which were, well, nasty, divisive and messy.
In a surprising move, viewers watched as Conservative leader Andrew Scheertook to the podium to begin his concession speech, while NDP leader Jagmeet Singh was still winding down his address. But just as Scheer started on his opening remarks in Regina, out came Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who launched into his victory speech in Papineau.
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/canada-federal-elec...
Tue, 2021-08-17 22:14
#54
I think you are correct robbie_dee.
Dany Fortin has some bad news for Justin tonite.
Maybe it will be more than just the millennials that will be giving Jagmeet a look.
Tue, 2021-08-17 22:19
#55
Are Gary Burrill and John Morgan the only male NDP candidates who are leading or elected now? It would be remarkable if the next provincial NDP caucus was 75% female.
Tue, 2021-08-17 22:35
#56
Sure looks like a PC majority government now
30-16-8-1
Tue, 2021-08-17 23:03
#57
This is the Independent candidate who was re-elected
The PCs were wise though to give her the boot.
Tue, 2021-08-17 23:05
#58
Tue, 2021-08-17 23:24
#59
The voters had a Red Tory opposition to go to. After more than four years the Liberal's elected a new leader who apparently was an arrogant asshole and they lost government. I have no idea what this PC governments Solutions to Healthcare are going to look like or what was promised but provincially there is seldom a larger issue than health care especially during a lingering pandemic.
Wed, 2021-08-18 01:37
#60
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
Wed, 2021-08-18 08:48
#61
The voters had a Red Tory opposition to go to. After more than four years the Liberal's elected a new leader who apparently was an arrogant asshole and they lost government. I have no idea what this PC governments Solutions to Healthcare are going to look like or what was promised but provincially there is seldom a larger issue than health care especially during a lingering pandemic.
This is a good take. Which is why I don't see implications for the national election. Especially the Red Tory part.
Wed, 2021-08-18 07:08
#62
31-17-6-1. Although the popular vote was closer: 39-37-21
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/nova-scotia/2021/results/
Wed, 2021-08-18 07:38
#63
The Red Tory point aside, this cannot be good for the federal Liberals.
1. there is potentially a similar dynamic at play. A young, fairly callow Liberl premier starts off with broad but shallow support and sees it slide away during the campaign.
2. the NDP looks to have carried every provincial seat within the federal riding of Halifax.
Wed, 2021-08-18 10:43
#64
Just watched Nova Scotia's new Premier-elect's first presser
If he does even 1/2 of what he says he wants to do, he could be Premier for quite a while.
Wed, 2021-08-18 12:45
#65
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
I was wondering how exactly that "loss" was calculated, since the NDP only had five seats going into the election? I assume that's based on the 2017 results where the NDP took seven seats, even though they subsequently lost Truro-Bible Hill and Sackville Cobequid in byelections. But this election was also fought on a slightly different map.
In any case it does look like the NDP remains an also-ran outside of downtown Halifax/Dartmouth and Sydney. Considering the disappointing result, the fact that it was his second kick at the can already, and the fact that Burrill would be over 70 by the next election, I agree it is probably time for a change in leader. Any bright lights among the new crop of MLAs?
Wed, 2021-08-18 11:56
#66
Women comprise 5 of the expected 6 successful NDP candidates.
https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/ndp-leader-gary-burrill-sh...
Wed, 2021-08-18 14:59
#67
31-17-6-1. Although the popular vote was closer: 39-37-21
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/nova-scotia/2021/results/
The vote share is actually very close to the last election. FPTP really skews things up. Those kind of vote shares should not produce a "majority" government. Of course the beneficiaries of FPTP aren't about to change the system that gave them total power with a minority of the vote. The PC's almost won a "majority" from 2nd place.
Wed, 2021-08-18 15:03
#68
Wed, 2021-08-18 17:32
#69
I wish Premier Horgan here in BC would make the election he won last year the last one held here provincially under FPTP.
Wed, 2021-08-18 17:39
#70
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
Why do you say sadly? My view from away is that he's been a complete dud as leader. The NDP share of the vote and seat count has consistently fallen since 2013.
Time for some new blood. Claudia Chender would be a good choice, IMHO.
Wed, 2021-08-18 18:09
#71
Some random thoughts on last night's result:
NDP came first or second in 12 of 55 ridings (22%), down from 16 of 51 (31%).
NDP vote went up 3% in Metro, while Tories rose 1% - result seems more a rejection of Liberals, with voters going to whichever opposition party was stronger in their region. NDP vote dropped 5% in the rural mainland, while Tories rose 9%.
Largest vote shares:
PC - 82.4% in Argyle (an all-time record in this province for a single-member riding)
Lib - 56.3% in Yarmouth (third election in a row)
NDP - 59.0% in Halifax Needham (second election in a row)
Largest margins (%):
PC - 68.0% in Argyle
Lib - 32.4% in Halifax Atlantic
NDP - 36.0% in Dartmouth South
We also see the value of an incumbent candidate from the Liberal results; of the 30 Liberal seats (based on estimated results on the new boundaries), 15 had members running again while 15 were open.
Results in the 15 seats where an incumbent was re-offering:
Lib - vote down 2%, 5 seats lost
PC - vote up 4%, 4 seats gained
NDP - vote down 0%, 1 seat gained
Results in the 15 open seats:
Lib - vote down 8%, 9 seats lost
PC - vote up 9%, 9 seats gained
NDP - vote down 1%
Wed, 2021-08-18 18:23
#72
The voters had a Red Tory opposition to go to. After more than four years the Liberal's elected a new leader who apparently was an arrogant asshole and they lost government. I have no idea what this PC governments Solutions to Healthcare are going to look like or what was promised but provincially there is seldom a larger issue than health care especially during a lingering pandemic.
This is a good take. Which is why I don't see implications for the national election. Especially the Red Tory part.
It seems like the federal Cons have not got the memo since they are highlighting, No GST For a Month, as their central plank to open the campaign. I would rather see the Cons gain seats at the expense of the Liberal's than have Trudeau gain another Liberal dictatorship. We have seen those before and they have historical instituted a Neo-liberal bloodletting of social programs. The Cons would do the same or worse with a dictatorship which is why they need to get a bit stronger in key ridings but not too strong.
Wed, 2021-08-18 18:52
#73
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
I was wondering how exactly that "loss" was calculated, since the NDP only had five seats going into the election? I assume that's based on the 2017 results where the NDP took seven seats, even though they subsequently lost Truro-Bible Hill and Sackville Cobequid in byelections. But this election was also fought on a slightly different map.
In any case it does look like the NDP remains an also-ran outside of downtown Halifax/Dartmouth and Sydney. Considering the disappointing result, the fact that it was his second kick at the can already, and the fact that Burrill would be over 70 by the next election, I agree it is probably time for a change in leader. Any bright lights among the new crop of MLAs?
It was a one seat loss from the previous election, to clarify. It was a one seat gain from dissolution, but still far short of what looked possible in the early evening, when the NDP was ahead in 10 ridings.
Thu, 2021-08-19 13:11
#74
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
I was wondering how exactly that "loss" was calculated, since the NDP only had five seats going into the election? I assume that's based on the 2017 results where the NDP took seven seats, even though they subsequently lost Truro-Bible Hill and Sackville Cobequid in byelections. But this election was also fought on a slightly different map.
In any case it does look like the NDP remains an also-ran outside of downtown Halifax/Dartmouth and Sydney. Considering the disappointing result, the fact that it was his second kick at the can already, and the fact that Burrill would be over 70 by the next election, I agree it is probably time for a change in leader. Any bright lights among the new crop of MLAs?
It was a one seat loss from the previous election, to clarify. It was a one seat gain from dissolution, but still far short of what looked possible in the early evening, when the NDP was ahead in 10 ridings.
They were ahead in 12 ridings at one point after a couple of hours but ended up with six seats. Then some of the early vote started being counted, followed by more the next day, suggesting that focusing on rent control and other issues was starting to have an impact on voting and increasing NDP voter share for those who had not already voted.
Thu, 2021-08-19 13:56
#75
The defeat of the Liberal Rankin's Nova Scotia government was in part a reaction against the austere conditions applied to Nova Scotia's healthcare system and the failure to deal with rapid exponential growth in housing costs, as well as the planned $209 spending cuts in 2022, with no plan to do anything about them, which is perfectly in line with neoliberal orthodoxy. When a Liberal government is outflanked on the left, not just by the NDP, but by a Progressive Conservative party, you know they are quite right-wing, as the following summary of parts of the TV three party debate illustrates.
The Liberals in Nova Scotia are outdueling the PCs as deficit hawks promising to balance budget in four years despite the enormous spending on Covid during the last year and a half. NDP leader Gary Burrill notes that this is a far shorter period than the 6 to 8 years most Canadian governments are promising to take to reach a balanced budget. During the election debate, when PC leader Houston said a PC government would build an additional 2,500 long-term-care beds, Liberal Premier Rankin replied " the Tory leader wants to "overbuild" in the long-term care sector by promising 2,500 new beds." In response to Rankin's statement, Burrill nailed him and the failure of the Liberals to build LTC beds "Did you just use the word, 'overbuild?' Do you not acknowledge that in eight years, the grand total was 57 beds you built?", showing how wedded Rankin is to austerity. Rankin's response reinforces his devotion to austerity: "What we don't need is a competition on who can throw the most money at an issue." (https://www.halifaxtoday.ca/local-news/ns-liberal-leader-faces-barrage-o...)
This is more than getting caught off-guard in a quick debate response as Liberal leader Rankin " pitched himself as a deficit slayer" as he, PC leader Houston and NDP leader Burrill answered questions before the Halifax Chamber of Commerce as the election continues. Burrill warned that achieving a balanced budget in four short year would cost hundreds of millions in program cuts.
Nova Scotia's opposition leaders say Premier Iain Rankin's four-year plan to balance the books amounts to nothing more than a pre-election fantasy straight from the Land of Oz.
"That's Judy-Garland-somewhere-over-the-rainbow economics," NDP Leader Gary Burrill told reporters at Province House on Thursday.
At issue for Burrill and Tory Leader Tim Houston is the fact this budget, which sees some major spending increases heading into a likely provincial election, is to be followed by an estimated $209-million decrease in departmental spending in 2022-23.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/iain-rankin-opposition-balanc...
Thu, 2021-08-19 14:18
#76
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
I was wondering how exactly that "loss" was calculated, since the NDP only had five seats going into the election? I assume that's based on the 2017 results where the NDP took seven seats, even though they subsequently lost Truro-Bible Hill and Sackville Cobequid in byelections. But this election was also fought on a slightly different map.
In any case it does look like the NDP remains an also-ran outside of downtown Halifax/Dartmouth and Sydney. Considering the disappointing result, the fact that it was his second kick at the can already, and the fact that Burrill would be over 70 by the next election, I agree it is probably time for a change in leader. Any bright lights among the new crop of MLAs?
It was a one seat loss from the previous election, to clarify. It was a one seat gain from dissolution, but still far short of what looked possible in the early evening, when the NDP was ahead in 10 ridings.
They were ahead in 12 ridings at one point after a couple of hours but ended up with six seats. Then some of the early vote started being counted, followed by more the next day, suggesting that focusing on rent control and other issues was starting to have an impact on voting and increasing NDP voter share for those who had not already voted.
Is there any chance that could still flip any ridings to them?
Thu, 2021-08-19 15:21
#77
The NSNDP end up with a one-seat loss. That's probably it for Burrill as leader, sadly.
I was wondering how exactly that "loss" was calculated, since the NDP only had five seats going into the election? I assume that's based on the 2017 results where the NDP took seven seats, even though they subsequently lost Truro-Bible Hill and Sackville Cobequid in byelections. But this election was also fought on a slightly different map.
In any case it does look like the NDP remains an also-ran outside of downtown Halifax/Dartmouth and Sydney. Considering the disappointing result, the fact that it was his second kick at the can already, and the fact that Burrill would be over 70 by the next election, I agree it is probably time for a change in leader. Any bright lights among the new crop of MLAs?
It was a one seat loss from the previous election, to clarify. It was a one seat gain from dissolution, but still far short of what looked possible in the early evening, when the NDP was ahead in 10 ridings.
They were ahead in 12 ridings at one point after a couple of hours but ended up with six seats. Then some of the early vote started being counted, followed by more the next day, suggesting that focusing on rent control and other issues was starting to have an impact on voting and increasing NDP voter share for those who had not already voted.
Is there any chance that could still flip any ridings to them?
The only riding that could possibly be changed by a recount is Glace Bay - Dominion, where the Tory lead is 33 votes. Nothing besides Hants East & Hants West (where the Liberals are second) has a margin smaller than 2%.
Appropriately enough, the last constituency to be flipped by a recount was Cape Breton East (the modern-day Glace Bay riding) in 1999, where a single-figure NDP lead was turned into a single-figure Liberal margin.