Why are people making excuses for Kayne West's Antisemitism?

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Why are people making excuses for Kayne West's Antisemitism?

FUEL TO THE FIRE

White Supremacists Are Doing Backflips Over Kanye West’s Antisemitism

While many conservative commentators struggle to reject the rapper's antisemitic posts, the far right has leapt to give him their full endorsement

BY NIKKI MCCANN RAMIREZ

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OCTOBER 12, 2022

Kanye West is seen in Chelsea on Jan. 5, 2022 in New York City. GC IMAGES

ONLINE WHITE SUPREMACIST forums and prominent reactionary figures are lauding rapper Kanye West’s turn to antisemitic conspiracy mongering with a barrage of memes, praise, and calls for escalation. Across Telegram, 4chan, and neo-Nazi forums, posts reviewed by Rolling Stone show that West’s statements have been received with nothing short of utter glee by the far-right’s most vitriolic figures. 

On Telegram, white nationalist livestreamer Nick Fuentes celebrated the comments and even forwarded posts from a Nazi-affinity channel attacking a Jewish critic of West’s antisemitic ranting, captioning the post “the Jew cries out as it strikes you,” an antisemitic trope that cast Jews as oppressors pretending to be victims. Fuentes also forwarded a post describing the mainstreaming of concepts like “White Lives Matter” and “anti-white racism” as “unambiguous wins.” 

On message boards like 4chan, users celebrated West “going nuclear” and “declaring war against jews.” One user morphed the name West’s fashion line “Yeezy” with “Zyklon” a reference to Zyklon B, the chemical used to murder millions of Jews in gas chambers during the Holocaust. The list, sadly, goes on, with scores of content applauding West and decrying his temporary removal from platforms dominating message boards.

 

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kanye-west-antisemit...

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

The idiot is confused and deluded. He needs a prescription for Seroquel and a social worker. He's sick...or stupid or both.

josh

You mean yedolf?

 

Fox News Edited a LOT of Antisemitism Out of Kanye’s Tucker Carlson Interview: Leaked Video

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kanye-west-antisemit...

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

He'll have waves of  apologists. I always hated him. Turns out I'm not much surprised. He's a pos. I don't know whast else to say.

Hopefully his career or what little of it left is gone. And soon we'll hear little to nothing more of this troll. Good.

Mobo2000

I am a fan of Kayne's music, I used to enjoy some of his media outbursts in the past, both genuinely ("George Bush doesn't care about black people") and for the spectacle.   But the last while, couple of years really, he's gone off the rails and it's sad to see.   

I thought this essay on mental illness and Kayne was interesting, by an author who has had extreme psychosis and severe mental illness:

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/how-convenient-that-kanye-wests-beh...

DistinguishedFlyer

Mobo2000 wrote:

I am a fan of Kayne's music, I used to enjoy some of his media outbursts in the past, both genuinely ("George Bush doesn't care about black people") and for the spectacle.   But the last while, couple of years really, he's gone off the rails and it's sad to see.   

I thought this essay on mental illness and Kayne was interesting, by an author who has had extreme psychosis and severe mental illness:

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/how-convenient-that-kanye-wests-beh...

That's an excellent piece; thank you.

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:
I always hated him.

Why is that?

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I know what your insinuating and you're wrong. I hate him because he is arrogant. I hate arrogance. Take your insinuations and piss up a rope.

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

I know what your insinuating and you're wrong. I hate him because he is arrogant. I hate arrogance. Take your insinuations and piss up a rope.


I was curious. Hating someone seems considerably more emotional than not liking someone. I thought it might be something big.

As for "what's left of his career", you do realize he's the richest musician in the world right? I think he'll be ok.

This one slaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

DistinguishedFlyer wrote:
Mobo2000 wrote:

I am a fan of Kayne's music, I used to enjoy some of his media outbursts in the past, both genuinely ("George Bush doesn't care about black people") and for the spectacle.   But the last while, couple of years really, he's gone off the rails and it's sad to see.   

I thought this essay on mental illness and Kayne was interesting, by an author who has had extreme psychosis and severe mental illness:

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/how-convenient-that-kanye-wests-beh...

That's an excellent piece; thank you.

Thanks to both of you. I didn't feel comfortable with the culture media push to just dismiss this man. I have a real hard time these days with separating the art and the artist - cancel culture is kind of terrifying.

lagatta4

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-celebrity-scientist-al...

Including the anti-lynching campaign,  with Robeson and others.

JKR

Billionaire No More: Kanye West’s Antisemitism Obliterates His Net Worth As Adidas Cuts Ties; Forbes; October 25, 2022

The superstar rapper no longer has a place on the Forbes Billionaires’ list now that his lucrative deal with Adidas is over.

Just days ago, the rapper-cum-fashion entrepreneur Kanye West challenged Adidas to drop him following a weeks-long barrage of antisemitic remarks made on social media and in national media appearances.

“I can say antisemitic s—- and Adidas cannot drop me,” said the rapper, who legally now goes by the name “Ye,” on the Drink Champs podcast earlier this month. Ye, who had worked with Adidas since 2013 on his Yeezy line of super-expensive, super-popular sneakers, thought he was untouchable. After all, Adidas gets an estimated 4% to 8% of its sales from Yeezy products, according to investment bank Cowen. For Ye, it was an even bigger deal, accounting for $1.5 billion of his net worth.

But Ye’s words put the German athletic wear company, with its own Nazi ties dating back to its founders, in the hot seat. What followed was even more escalating pressure on Adidas to sever ties with Ye, as his string of antisemitic remarks drew condemnation from the top tiers of Hollywood. For weeks, Adidas stayed silent, except to say on October 6 that their partnership with Ye was “under review.”

The pressure ratcheted up on Adidas after an image was released over the weekend of a banner draped over a Los Angeles highway overpass reading “Kanye was right about the Jews” accompanied by a group of white supremacists giving the Nazi salute to the drivers below. The white supremacists were apparently referring to Ye’s “death con 3 on Jewish people” tweet that got his Twitter account locked; other antisemitic remarks got him blocked on Instagram, and thousands upon thousands upon thousands of social media users chorused for Adidas to also drop Ye.

Today—Tuesday, October 25—Adidas finally broke its silence and ended the relationship. That move will cost them big, but Ye even more, immediately knocking him out of the billionaire ranks. 

“Adidas does not tolerate antisemitism and any other sort of hate speech. Ye’s recent comments and actions have been unacceptable, hateful and dangerous, and they violate the company’s values of diversity and inclusion, mutual respect and fairness,” the company declared in a press release. “After a thorough review, the company has taken the decision to terminate the partnership with Ye immediately, end production of Yeezy branded products and stop all payments to Ye and his companies. Adidas will stop the Adidas Yeezy business with immediate effect.”

With that gone, Ye is no longer a billionaire.

It caps a stunning, self-induced downfall for one of the brashest and most volatile personalities to have graced Forbes’ pages (and a magazine cover). Ye did not respond to request for comment.

The $1.5 billion value of the Adidas deal was calculated off of a multiple of annual earnings. Based on interviews with industry experts, Forbes had viewed the royalties Ye received from Adidas to be similar to royalties from music catalogs or film residuals. The Adidas income stream could be sold off, those experts said, just like dozens of musicians (including the likes of Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen) have sold off their life’s work over the past two years.

Without Adidas, Ye is worth $400 million. The remainder of Ye’s fortune, Forbes estimates, comes from real estate, cash, his music catalog and a 5% stake in ex-wife Kim Kardashian’s shapewear firm, Skims. (A source close to Skims told Forbes Ye hasn’t been involved with the brand since its 2019 launch.) 

Removing Ye from the Billionaires’ list caps off a years-long saga between the rapper and Forbes. Ye always felt his net worth was undervalued. When he first made the list in 2020, with an estimated $1 billion fortune, Ye wasn’t happy. “It’s not a billion,” he texted us at the time. “It’s $3.3 billion since no one at Forbes knows how to count.”

This pattern continued every year, with Ye continuing to complain about our low numbers. For this year’s valuation, Ye sent documents claiming his Adidas partnership alone was worth $4.3 billion. When Ye learned he would clock in at $2 billion overall, his unhappiness with Forbes leaked to the tabloids.

Losing Adidas was the final nail in Ye’s net-worth coffin. GapGPS +1.4% terminated its Yeezy partnership in September. Earlier this month, JPMorgan reportedly unbanked Ye. French fashion house Balenciaga nixed their relationship with Ye on October 21, just weeks after he walked their runway at Paris Fashion Week.

Just yesterday production company MRC said it would not air a completed documentary on Ye and talent agency CAA, where Ye was signed, dumped him. 

The two had been in partnership since 2013, when news of their Yeezy collaboration was announced. In the decade since, Ye’s ridden wave after wave of conflict—with Taylor Swift, with his former recording home Universal Music Group, and more recently on social media against Kardashian and her boyfriend at the time, SNL alum Pete Davidson. 

Now the road has ended. (There’s always the chance Ye could relaunch Yeezy on his own.) Five days ago Ye made his first post to Parler, the right-wing social media site he agreed to acquire for an undisclosed amount after getting locked out of Twitter and Instagram. He quoted Romans 8:31.

“What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?”

Mobo2000

A follow up essay by the same author I posted above, on  mental illness more generally and how is it discussed in our culture:

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/your-mental-illness-beliefs-are-inc...

"Here’s what we’ve done with mental health in the popular American consciousness in the span of a few years.

  1. Created a pleasant series of lies about mental illness such that it is defined as a set of attractive and romantic quirks which do nothing to stop someone from participating in public life as a savvy and politically correct person.

  2. Defined any behavior that is genuinely ugly or unpalatable or against contemporary social-political norms as therefore necessarily not the product of mental illness.

  3. Excused the people who comfortably fit in the former category from essentially any of the work of adult life, and insisted that expecting such people to still do that work is “stigma.”

  4. Removed the basic social protections we had in place for people who were guilty of the latter types of behavior, under the theory that “mental illness doesn’t do that,” with “that” meaning “anything not approved by social media users.”

So it’s a great time to be an upwardly-mobile Swarthmore graduate with a professional-managerial class job who never shuts the fuck up about having adult ADHD and whose penalty for failing to take their medication is that they send only 80 emails in a day instead of 100. Those for whom mental illness is a hashtag. It’s a less cool time to be someone with severe paranoid schizophrenia whose medication comes with punishing physical and mental side effects and whose penalty for failing to take that medication is that they start muttering bizarre conspiracy theories about the Jews. For the former, online culture has limitless patience and support. For the latter, who violate identity norms when sick, online culture has only censure and blame. For years now, the severely ill have been pushed further and further into the backseat of the public discourse about mental illness. With the new insistence that mentally ill people never do anything really bad, that process is complete; those who suffer the least from mental illness now blot out the sun."