Is Trump really the most racist President ever?
Ok, he didn't treat Native Americans quite so murderously as Andrew Jackson or work to preserve the institution of slavery...but Trump was clearly the most racist in the post-1964 era.
No other occupant of the Oval Office, in that era, was holding rallies that were essentially paens to white supremacy. Nobody else in the post-Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act era was as utterly contemptuous of the idea of racial equality and human equality as he was.
Black right wingers? One of the commentators said that FDR's New Deal was bad for black people which astonished me so I googled it.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-did-fdrs-new-deal-harm-blacks
Apparently it harmed blacks because they weren't worth the minimum wage so they losts their jobs. Legalizing unions was also racist.
The Wagner Act (1935) harmed blacks by making labor union monopolies legal. Economists Thomas E. Hall and J. David Ferguson explained: “By encouraging unionization, the Wagner Act raised the number of insiders (those with jobs) who had the incentive and ability to exclude outsiders (those without jobs). Once high wages have been negotiated, employers are less likely to hire outsiders, and thus the insiders could protect their own interest.”
I don't see a need for the "whose the most racist President" debate. Given that Trump wanted BLM protesters shot, and asked the Proud Boys to stand by, Trump is definitely a contender which is all that matters. Where he is in the "worst racist" lineup is immaterial. The point is he is a proud racist.
What's the point of this thread? There were presidents who owned slaves, so of course they were more racist. So what?
No other occupant of the Oval Office, in that era, was holding rallies that were essentially paens to white supremacy. Nobody else in the post-Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act era was as utterly contemptuous of the idea of racial equality and human equality as he was.
Trump was exactly in line with, if somewhat less subtle than, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both of whom ran campaigns that mirrored Trump's. Nixon's campaign strategy was based on "knowing who hates who" and casting suburban whites as the productive segment of society, exploited by takers, and Nixon as the law-and-order voice of white people rising up against their [implicitly black] exploiters. His campaign ads showing cities burning were exactly like Trump's "American carnage".
Ronald Reagan went to Philadelphia, Mississippi, where civil rights workers were murdered, and praised "states' rights". The fact that that's a wink and nudge more subtle than Trump's "build the wall" doesn't mean there was anyone in the country who didn't understand Reagan was essentially screaming "white power!". Jeremy Mayer described Reagan as the "sunny salesman of the white backlash" to civil rights. His "welfare queen" speech used all of George Wallace's racist tropes: blacks as lazy, promiscuous, irresponsible criminals exploiting the naive white voter's compassion. As Lee Atwater put it:
You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘N*****, n*****, n*****.’ By 1968 you can’t say ‘n*****’—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… ‘We want to cut this,’ is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than ‘N*****, n*****.’
Oh, and George W. Bush, who's currently making the press rounds trying to rehabilitate himself as the civilized, non-racist Republican, ran his primary campaign in 2000 by claiming John McCain had fathered an illegitimate black child, rigged the general election by suppressing black votes in Florida, stood resolutely against hate crime and anti-discrimination legislation throughout his entire administration, started the border wall, made speeches about Mexicans "sneaking across the border", bringing "crime to our communities"...and oh, yes, started wars that killed over a million brown people. Though since Obama made Bush's wars America's wars, we're not supposed to associate them with racism anymore.
Trump's nothing new. He just said the quiet part out loud. People who think that's a major departure are looking at rhetoric, not policy, which is an inherently privileged viewpoint: being fine with hurting minorities as long as it's done with a veneer of politeness.
If you watch the video that opened this thread it is to defend Trump as less racist than presidents like FDR not to condemn them equally.
The right wing argument is presented that minimum wage harmed black workers because they were unskilled and not worth minimum wage. Hence, minimum wage is racist.
The channel was demonetized for a reason. My view of Libertarianism is dropping like a stone. Just seems like an extreme form of right wing ideology.
That's what it's always been.
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Over the next decade, as Donald J. Trumpassumed an increasingly prominent role in the business, the company’s practice of turning away potential black tenants was painstakingly documented by activists and organizations that viewed equal housing as the next frontier in the civil rights struggle.
The Justice Department undertook its own investigation and, in 1973, sued Trump Management for discriminating against blacks. Both Fred Trump, the company’s chairman, and Donald Trump, its president, were named as defendants. It was front-page news, and for Donald, amounted to his debut in the public eye.
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Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump; NPR; September 29, 2016
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"Donald started his career, back in 1973, being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination — because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans, and he made sure that the people who worked for him understood that was the policy," Clinton said on Monday night.
The lawsuit was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Division, which alleged that black people who went to Trump buildings were told there were no apartments available, while white people were offered units.
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FBI releases files on Trump apartments' race discrimination probe in '70s; Politico; By JOSH GERSTEIN; 02/15/2017
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A supervisor "told me that if a black person came to 2650 Ocean Parkway and inquired about an apartment for rent, and he, that is [redacted] was not there at the time, that I should tell him that the rent was twice as much as it really was, in order that he could not afford the apartment," the ex-doorman said.
Many of the accounts of discrimination appear to have originated with the National Urban League, which relayed the information to the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. Some of those complaints are barely legible, and many of the records are heavily redacted.
In October 1973, the Civil Rights Division filed a lawsuit against Trump Management Company, Donald Trump and his father Fred Trump, alleging that African-Americans and Puerto Ricans were systematically excluded from apartments.
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Inside the government’s racial bias case against Donald Trump’s company, and how he fought it; Washington Post; By Michael Kranish and Robert O'Harrow Jr.; January 23, 2016
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Phyllis Spiro, a white woman who went undercover in 1973 at a Trump property, told investigators how a building superintendent acknowledged to her “that he followed a racially discriminatory rental policy at the direction of his superiors, and that there were only very few ‘colored’ tenants” at the complex, according to court records.
Spiro, now 86 and living in Brooklyn, said in an interview that she remembers the case vividly. She said she and her fellow housing activists found “a constant pattern and practice of discrimination” at Trump buildings.
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Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020; Vox; By German Lopez; August 13, 2020
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This long history is important. It would be one thing if Trump misspoke one or two times. But when you take all of his actions and comments together, a clear pattern emerges — one that suggests that bigotry is not just political opportunism on Trump’s part but a real element of his personality, character, and career.
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Meanwhile, white supremacist groups have openly embraced Trump. As Sarah Posner and David Neiwert reported at Mother Jones, what the media largely treated as gaffes — Trump retweeting white nationalists, Trump describing Mexican immigrants as “rapists” and criminals — were to white supremacists real signals approving of their racist causes. One white supremacist wrote, “Our Glorious Leader and ULTIMATE SAVIOR has gone full-wink-wink-wink to his most aggressive supporters.”
Some of them even argued that Trump has softened the greater public to their racist messaging. “The success of the Trump campaign just proves that our views resonate with millions,” said Rachel Pendergraft, a national organizer for the Knights Party, which succeeded David Duke’s Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. “They may not be ready for the Ku Klux Klan yet, but as anti-white hatred escalates, they will.”
And at the 2017 white supremacist protest in Charlottesville, David Duke, the former KKK grand wizard, said that the rally was meant “to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump.”
Trump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
Black right wingers? One of the commentators said that FDR's New Deal was bad for black people which astonished me so I googled it.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-did-fdrs-new-deal-harm-blacks
Apparently it harmed blacks because they weren't worth the minimum wage so they losts their jobs. Legalizing unions was also racist.
The Wagner Act (1935) harmed blacks by making labor union monopolies legal. Economists Thomas E. Hall and J. David Ferguson explained: “By encouraging unionization, the Wagner Act raised the number of insiders (those with jobs) who had the incentive and ability to exclude outsiders (those without jobs). Once high wages have been negotiated, employers are less likely to hire outsiders, and thus the insiders could protect their own interest.”
I don't see a need for the "whose the most racist President" debate. Given that Trump wanted BLM protesters shot, and asked the Proud Boys to stand by, Trump is definitely a contender which is all that matters. Where he is in the "worst racist" lineup is immaterial. The point is he is a proud racist.
The big issue with blacks and the New Deal was that, to get the support of Southern segregationist congressional committee chairs to get it through Congress, FDR had to agree to exclude at least Southern blacks from the New Deal programs.
It's an open questions as to whether this was racism or just horribly desperate political expediency.
And I join the other posters who've asked "what is the point of this thread?" Nobody had actually claimed that Trump was the MOST racist president the U.S. had ever had-the implication that anyone ever had is a strawman.
The worst interpretation is that this thread was started in the hope of rehabilitating Trump- and whatever else anyone could say, what happened on January 6th shows that there can never be any decent reason for anyone to TRY and rehabilitate him.
Whether Trump was the "most racist" president or not, he is the most OPENLY racist in the post-Civil Rights Act era, and, his views on race aside, Trump will always be remembered as the only president in American history who incited a violent invasion of the Capitol complex in order to stay in office after the voters had clearly and decisively voted the man out(ironically, delaying the certification of the electoral votes would NOT have kept Trump in office after January 20th- he would STILL have had to left office on that day; it's just that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would have become acting speaker until the electoral votes actually were certified- and there was no possibility that the Biden victories in the "swing states" would have been reversed, so there was never any possibility- just as their is none now- that Trump would be "reinstated".
And in any case, nobody who didn't support fascism would WANT Trump kept in office.
Black right wingers? One of the commentators said that FDR's New Deal was bad for black people which astonished me so I googled it.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-did-fdrs-new-deal-harm-blacks
Apparently it harmed blacks because they weren't worth the minimum wage so they losts their jobs. Legalizing unions was also racist.
The Wagner Act (1935) harmed blacks by making labor union monopolies legal. Economists Thomas E. Hall and J. David Ferguson explained: “By encouraging unionization, the Wagner Act raised the number of insiders (those with jobs) who had the incentive and ability to exclude outsiders (those without jobs). Once high wages have been negotiated, employers are less likely to hire outsiders, and thus the insiders could protect their own interest.”
I don't see a need for the "whose the most racist President" debate. Given that Trump wanted BLM protesters shot, and asked the Proud Boys to stand by, Trump is definitely a contender which is all that matters. Where he is in the "worst racist" lineup is immaterial. The point is he is a proud racist.
The big issue with blacks and the New Deal was that, to get the support of Southern segregationist congressional committee chairs to get it through Congress, FDR had to agree to exclude at least Southern blacks from the New Deal programs.
It's an open questions as to whether this was racism or just horribly desperate political expediency.
But that isn't what the article was claiming. The video was claiming black people got fired because they weren't worth paying minimum wage. Hence, minimum wage is racist because it causes black people to be fired.
Trump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
No other occupant of the Oval Office, in that era, was holding rallies that were essentially paens to white supremacy. Nobody else in the post-Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act era was as utterly contemptuous of the idea of racial equality and human equality as he was.
Trump was exactly in line with, if somewhat less subtle than, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both of whom ran campaigns that mirrored Trump's. Nixon's campaign strategy was based on "knowing who hates who" and casting suburban whites as the productive segment of society, exploited by takers, and Nixon as the law-and-order voice of white people rising up against their [implicitly black] exploiters. His campaign ads showing cities burning were exactly like Trump's "American carnage".
Ronald Reagan went to Philadelphia, Mississippi, where civil rights workers were murdered, and praised "states' rights". The fact that that's a wink and nudge more subtle than Trump's "build the wall" doesn't mean there was anyone in the country who didn't understand Reagan was essentially screaming "white power!". Jeremy Mayer described Reagan as the "sunny salesman of the white backlash" to civil rights. His "welfare queen" speech used all of George Wallace's racist tropes: blacks as lazy, promiscuous, irresponsible criminals exploiting the naive white voter's compassion. As Lee Atwater put it:
You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘N*****, n*****, n*****.’ By 1968 you can’t say ‘n*****’—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… ‘We want to cut this,’ is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than ‘N*****, n*****.’Oh, and George W. Bush, who's currently making the press rounds trying to rehabilitate himself as the civilized, non-racist Republican, ran his primary campaign in 2000 by claiming John McCain had fathered an illegitimate black child, rigged the general election by suppressing black votes in Florida, stood resolutely against hate crime and anti-discrimination legislation throughout his entire administration, started the border wall, made speeches about Mexicans "sneaking across the border", bringing "crime to our communities"...and oh, yes, started wars that killed over a million brown people. Though since Obama made Bush's wars America's wars, we're not supposed to associate them with racism anymore.
Trump's nothing new. He just said the quiet part out loud. People who think that's a major departure are looking at rhetoric, not policy, which is an inherently privileged viewpoint: being fine with hurting minorities as long as it's done with a veneer of politeness.
You can also add Obama's invasion of Libya to the list.
Other than that, you are absolutely right. Something that I think is glossed over quite frequently is that minorities in the United States tend to not vote. What does that say about how effective they think voting for one politician over the other is? Speaking of voting, did you know that last year, when the whole country stood up and said, "black lives matter," that the Democrats actually lost minority votes?
Biden got 87% of the African American vote!
It's weird having a thread in support of Trump on a left wing site like babble! It's also weird having support for anti-vaxing here.
Seconded.
Something that I think is glossed over quite frequently is that minorities in the United States tend to not vote. What does that say about how effective they think voting for one politician over the other is?
"Tend not to vote" is an interesting way to put it – as though the issue were a cynicism-fueled boycott of the ballot box and not Jim Crow laws that, in the state I grew up in, disenfranchise 20% of black adults, and deliberately make polling places as inaccessible as possible to the remaining enfranchised population. This is above and beyond how all poor people are discouraged from voting, with elections held on a Tuesday, no guaranteed time off from work to vote, voter registration laws that make it difficult to register and easy to be purged from the rolls, and very high bars to clear to get mail-in ballots. There's a reason that this past cycle had the highest turnout in decades, and it wasn't because people were enthusiastic about Biden or even disgusted by Trump. It was because it's hard for state legislators to write laws that give mail-in ballots to white voters only – an oversight they're rushing to rectify.
Convicted felons cannot vote in many states and guess who make up the bulk of felons disenfranchised? It is called systemic racism.
No other occupant of the Oval Office, in that era, was holding rallies that were essentially paens to white supremacy. Nobody else in the post-Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act era was as utterly contemptuous of the idea of racial equality and human equality as he was.
Trump was exactly in line with, if somewhat less subtle than, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, both of whom ran campaigns that mirrored Trump's. Nixon's campaign strategy was based on "knowing who hates who" and casting suburban whites as the productive segment of society, exploited by takers, and Nixon as the law-and-order voice of white people rising up against their [implicitly black] exploiters. His campaign ads showing cities burning were exactly like Trump's "American carnage".
Ronald Reagan went to Philadelphia, Mississippi, where civil rights workers were murdered, and praised "states' rights". The fact that that's a wink and nudge more subtle than Trump's "build the wall" doesn't mean there was anyone in the country who didn't understand Reagan was essentially screaming "white power!". Jeremy Mayer described Reagan as the "sunny salesman of the white backlash" to civil rights. His "welfare queen" speech used all of George Wallace's racist tropes: blacks as lazy, promiscuous, irresponsible criminals exploiting the naive white voter's compassion. As Lee Atwater put it:
You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘N*****, n*****, n*****.’ By 1968 you can’t say ‘n*****’—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… ‘We want to cut this,’ is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than ‘N*****, n*****.’Oh, and George W. Bush, who's currently making the press rounds trying to rehabilitate himself as the civilized, non-racist Republican, ran his primary campaign in 2000 by claiming John McCain had fathered an illegitimate black child, rigged the general election by suppressing black votes in Florida, stood resolutely against hate crime and anti-discrimination legislation throughout his entire administration, started the border wall, made speeches about Mexicans "sneaking across the border", bringing "crime to our communities"...and oh, yes, started wars that killed over a million brown people. Though since Obama made Bush's wars America's wars, we're not supposed to associate them with racism anymore.
Trump's nothing new. He just said the quiet part out loud. People who think that's a major departure are looking at rhetoric, not policy, which is an inherently privileged viewpoint: being fine with hurting minorities as long as it's done with a veneer of politeness.
You can also add Obama's invasion of Libya to the list.
Other than that, you are absolutely right. Something that I think is glossed over quite frequently is that minorities in the United States tend to not vote. What does that say about how effective they think voting for one politician over the other is? Speaking of voting, did you know that last year, when the whole country stood up and said, "black lives matter," that the Democrats actually lost minority votes?
You can't actually be trying to rehabilitate Trump.
The man literally had NO redeeming values as president.
He brought us nothing but toxicity.
Why would anyone other than the fascists of January 6th possibly want him back?
And it goes without saying I wasn't letting Nixon and Reagan and either Bush off the hook for their unpleasantness, so there is no reason to even imply such a thing.
Again...why would ANYONE other than a total reactionary want to rehabilitate Trump?
It was solely his fault, after all, that the death toll from Covid reached a half-million by the time he was voted out by a multimillion-vote margin. He could have prevented most of those deaths if he'd just gone on television and said
"As your president, for the good of your country, I'm asking you to mask and socially distance until we have a vaccine in widespread distribution".
He not only refused to do that, but he mocked the very idea of doing it-and in mocking that idea, caused hundreds of thousands of avoidable deaths.
There is no moral difference between the way he handled Covid and the way Reagan and Bush The First handled AIDS. None.
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander.
I was wrong. I apologize.
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander. I reacted
I was wrong. I apologize.
Sorry for the duplicate
It was solely his fault, after all, that the death toll from Covid reached a half-million by the time he was voted out by a multimillion-vote margin. He could have prevented most of those deaths if he'd just gone on television and said
"As your president, for the good of your country, I'm asking you to mask and socially distance until we have a vaccine in widespread distribution".
That is problematic on so many levels. For one, the states with the worst outcomes followed Fauci's advice, while South Dakota, whose governor accurately said that Fauci is "wrong a lot," had a much better result than the US northeast, and is now largely clear of covid. Number two, large-scale wearing of masks by the general population was never recommended in any of the pandemic plans prior to 2020, and even St. Tony of Fauci said as much in March. Number three, in the "media failures" thread I started, there is a conversation between the former Ontario Chief Medical Officer of Health Richard Schabas and the 3 co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. I think Sunetra Gupta accurately called it when she said that since Trump said that "the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease," that anyone else who espoused that position was tarred as being a Trump supporter, whether deserving to be painted with that brush or not. I believe Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, in that some liberals are so repulsed by Trump that they would instinctively attack him if he said that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Far from "following the science," I believe that if Trump actually had advocated for any sort of covid restrictions or measures, that the left would have screamed against it so loud that they would have never happened.
No, Trump should absolutely not run for public office ever again, and he is a horrible human being by any standard. But it is important to keep things in their perspective. Other Presidents, like Clinton, Obama, and even now Biden are still presiding over agressive and expanding militarism, but they are nicer about it so it is more palatable to the population. Every society has their Trump-like people who would absolutely abuse the population if given a chance. The fact that Trump was elected in the first place tells a great deal about the United States. If not Trump, someone else will come along.
Nobody here was absolving the others of anything.
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander. I reacted
I was wrong. I apologize.
I thought you were being facetious :D
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander. I reacted
I was wrong. I apologize.
I thought you were being facetious :D
I'm sorry JKR. I'm a hot head that gets triggered quite easily.
In any case, I still say Trump is a Mein Kampf reading (probably the only book he has read) maniac
I believe Trump is a neo-nazi and a toxic pos
I believe that if Trump actually had advocated for any sort of covid restrictions or measures, that the left would have screamed against it so loud that they would have never happened.
So you think we are all a bunch of liars motivated by opposition to Trump rather than knowledge about Covid-19 and how it is impacting different parts of the world, like Brazil for example, or India, or even the UK.
You complain of deferred medical treatment. Treatment is deferred because hospitals are overloaded with covid patients. Having more covid patients would not be helpful.
It seems some areas have gotten lucky and Covid has not spread as badly even though there were fewer restrictions. There is no evidence of any cause and effect. There is cause and effect data on the impact of restrictions. The herd immunity approach is not going well in Brazil. Here in Canada nurses are quitting. Nurses quitting is factual. We can't afford to lose any. They tell us it is covid burn out and I have no reason to disbelieve them.
Nurses across Canada are quitting their jobs and leaving because of pandemic stress
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/04/13/nurses-across-canada-are-...
I'm not willing to do without health care because some people resent the restrictions. No nurses. No health care. We could more easily do without doctors.
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander. I reacted
I was wrong. I apologize.
I thought you were being facetious :D
I'm sorry JKR. I'm a hot head that gets triggered quite easily.
In any case, I still say Trump is a Mein Kampf reading (probably the only book he has read) maniac
I believe Trump is a neo-nazi and a toxic pos
I agree.
I've read Mein Kampf. Is that sufficient proof of mania or is something else required? Personally I have always considered it required reading for anyone serious about fighting fascists.
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander. I reacted
I was wrong. I apologize.
I thought you were being facetious :D
I'm sorry JKR. I'm a hot head that gets triggered quite easily.
In any case, I still say Trump is a Mein Kampf reading (probably the only book he has read) maniac
I believe Trump is a neo-nazi and a toxic pos
Don't know whether he read that. But he did keep a book of Hitler's speeches on his night table, according to his first wife.
Don't know whether he read that. But he did keep a book of Hitler's speeches on his night table, according to his first wife.
Now that is fascist. Were they in the original German?
You cheeky mothefucker getting on my back over grammar again....You are a a troublemaker...A direct offensive atttack at my character and intelllect. You are no bettter than Trump. Leave me the fuck alone if you want trouble...riddle me that, BatmanTrump is a racist. But what makes him different from other presidents is that he's an openly fascist asshole. Fact.
The title of this thread could be changed to "Is Trump the most fascist president ever?"
That post said nothing about your grammar- his comment about the thread title wasn't even a reference to anything you wrote, since it wasn't your thread title- and the poster was actually more or less agreeing with you. Why did you take it as a personal attack?
It strucvk me hard at first and I was offended at what I swore I saw. I misread his statement/ It stung like a backhander. I reacted
I was wrong. I apologize.
I thought you were being facetious :D
I'm sorry JKR. I'm a hot head that gets triggered quite easily.
In any case, I still say Trump is a Mein Kampf reading (probably the only book he has read) maniac
I believe Trump is a neo-nazi and a toxic pos
Don't know whether he read that. But he did keep a book of Hitler's speeches on his night table, according to his first wife.
Knowing Trump, it was probably the picture book edition.
Maybe the Coles Notes version?
I think Trump has indeed learnt some lessons from the past. However I must point out that American politicians of all stripes have been building on Goebbels techniques for 70 years. American Exceptionalism is the over arching big lie that makes America fascist and all parties subscribe to it. Real believers in democracy believe in empowerment for all humans not dominance of the "enlightened" in the West.
Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says.